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Ultimatewingchun
...I don't read Niehoff's posts anymore - but when others quote him, then I might - and this one from Terence Niehoff is absolutely amazing.
That makes great sense -- ignore me, unless someone else doesn't! Pure Victor at his best.
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The stuff in Phil Redmond's vid that Terence says is pretty good and similar to what he (terence) now does is EXACTLY the kind of thing in the past that Niehoff would RIP APART as things that would never work. Just amazing!!!
I would not have ripped it apart although there is much in what Phil teaches that I would rip apart. BTW, I didn't say it was "pretty good", I said it's "not bad."
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So when Jim (YungChun) wrote this, he was spot on:
"I am convinced reading this and other things from you that I have no idea what you are talking about... Much of what you write seems erratic..one day a little of this, the next a little of that..."
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I understand that you guys just don't get it, so it is not surprising that you can't put various things I say together -- it's like I'm talking to guys who can't ride a bike and have no idea how to ride a bike. So when I say that you lean as you turn, you respond with "but you said that you turn by using the handle bars!"
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***SO I FIRST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE DISENGENUOUS NATURE OF TERENCE NIEHOFF - THE GUY IS OBVIOUSLY "WINGING IT" FROM POST-TO-POST, WEEK-BY-WEEK, MONTH-BY-MONTH, YEAR-BY-YEAR...
and is just a flame thrower who really has no foundation to what he does as a wing chun guy/martial artist - and hence the constant changes and bombastic attitudes.
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All I'm doing is giving an example -- Phil's bridging with his bong sao. As far as it goes, that's fine. But he's not hitting with his structure or breaking the opponent's structure with his hit. That's where from my perspective, we have a problem.
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And now I want to address the specifics in his above post that he says Phil is lacking - and point out the errors in his (Niehoff's) approach to how to "fix" what Phil is allegedly doing wrong.
Niehoff assumes that he can break the opponent's structure by use of his own superior "body structure" - crashing the guy's punch into his chest through use of the bong sao (again, referring to the scenario covered in Phil's TWC clip)...
in other words, if the wing chun guy had only HIT THE GUY HARD ENOUGH and had done so WITH THE PROPER BODY STRUCTURE - then the bong sao and ensuing moves would have dominated the guy and beaten him easily.
THIS IS BULL5HIT.
Because as usual, it's a half-truth...which means the other half is a lie.
I can do this kind of thing often myself, and have done so (and so can you, reader) - if you're up against someone smaller or weaker than you. Or perhaps against someone the same size as you - or even a bigger guy who doesn't know how to fight.
No, you don't understand. You hit the opponent with your body structure. You don't have the body structure I'm talking about. So, you won't be able to do what I'm talking about.
The other thing is, while destroying our opponent's body structure on contact is an ideal, we don't always accomplish it (just like not every shoot results in a take down). That's why we follow it up by staying in contact, trying to control while striking.
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Now referring back to my vids: how often do you think the Niehoff approach (THAT IS, THE NIEHOFF APPROACH OF TODAY - BECAUSE TOMORROW HE MIGHT BE 180 DEGREES AWAY FROM IT)....
Dude, I wrote an article http://www.w1ng.com/a-method-to-our-madness/ years ago on the WCK method.
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how often could ANYONE do that against a much bigger and stronger opponent who does know how to fight. To reiterate once again: the guy in the vid with me stands 6'3" and weighs 210...
to my 5'10"/170.
How well you can do what I do depends on the quality of your training. In your case, you'd never be able to pull it off.
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Niehoff shoud show us a vid of himself giving away 40 lbs. and 5 inches against a strong guy who knows how to fight - and doing what he says Phil Redmond should have done.
I do it every time I train. But sorry, Victor, no video! :)