Doug, you brought it, cool. I'm having some fun. But other people probably are not. So I'll just hit my favorite points.
If by second hand you mean the video, then everyone makes assumptions from what they see. As you should know, everyone sees something different. Do not try to make it seem like I am the only one making determinations here.
You are the only one who seems to take his determinations as law.
This is a funny claim considering the face that you asked him to present his weapons for your scrutiny. So I guess he can show, but only you can tell, right?
I never said this. Did you major in hasty generalization in school?
You said "The only waste of time is that you are trying to argue with me about assumptions you are making. You should not have to present it to me for my scrutiny There is a difference beween showing and telling."
It's fine if you have a problem with their explanation, but you did specifically ask for them to post pictures. If not for your scrutiny, then for what reason?
You argue that the realness of a weapon determines how the person will perform in a real situation. I offer this counterexample-my teacher has told me that many of the moves in wudang sword are standard sword movements but what distinguishes wudang from the rest is its body method. How does that fit into the problem with the realness of a weapon? If a person performs wudang with a flexible sword, is he no longer doing wudang sword even if he is using the correct body method. I asked a similar question in my last post and you did not address it.
Last couple of points. You say I am defending those two despite my claims to the contrary. If by defending you mean pointing out your overreaction and misperception, then fine. I am defending them. Also, the fact that other people have a problem with their writing style does not immediately make them wrong. You said that the people change for the culture, but guess what, people make culture.
Most importantly, you asked "what is an empath?"
empathy - the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also, the capacity for this.
This is what I mean when I say you are an empath. This was my whole problem with you to begin with. You seem to believe that you know what these two are thinking based on what they have posted over the internet. Well done.
Back to the topic. I really do need to learn more about real weapon usage so if you would, please post a link that will take me directly to historical material on the bagua dao's usage on swordforum (not the actual discussion forum please unless it is very detailed). I am having some difficulty finding it from the homepage. If it does not get that specific then I would settle for general info on chinese weaponry's history.
Oh yeah, I have only been practicing bagua for six months, so I do not know the dao form, nor have I acquired one, although I have seen one on the wall of our school. That's my reason for not posting pictures or clips.