Ng chan wing chun

[WC1277]

Btw thats not kwan sao in the opening, try tut sao/ senk sao,
Done equally to define the line.....and how to recycle. We do this
later in SLT too before punches at the end of the form.
Do you know why he pushes the xed arms, to check what?

What are you talking about Kevin?

[Vajramusti]

Its the thinking behind the forms, your assuming the same shapes make the same ideas, um, no.
Btw thats not kwan sao in the opening, try tut sao/ senk sao,
Done equally to define the line.....and how to recycle. We do this
later in SLT too before punches at the end of the form.
Do you know why he pushes the xed arms, to check what?

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You know so much!! No sense wasting time deciphering your posts.

joy chaudhuri

[k gledhill]

What are you talking about Kevin?

The clips joy refered to...

[k gledhill]

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You know so much!! No sense wasting time deciphering your posts.

joy chaudhuri

Simple stuff, you have been doing it ever since you started vt...

[WC1277]

The clips joy refered to...

What clips and where did joy respond about that?

[Vajramusti]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9VK1...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A710p5iess&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf8s2...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAibm...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt3oSndkAnA

[WC1277]

The clips joy refered to...

Ok I see the post but why do you assume his knowledge of that has to do with the clips?

[WC1277]

Ok nevermind, I didn't see that last video, there is a kwan sau

[Vajramusti]

Atleast one of the reposted links is "malformed" . At one point in the last link Ng Chan
"rolls" his hands up rather than bringing them straight up.

Some roll up a little more clearly. Many just bring their hands up.

We already have had a thread on rolling- kwan--don't care to revisit the same stuff.

Folks can do whatever they want to.

With good wishes,

joy chaudhuri

[Vajramusti]

[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1117081]At least one of the reposted links is "malformed" .
You can go back to the original links provided by kung fu fighter.

At one point in the last link Ng Chan
"rolls" his hands up rather than bringing them straight up.

Some roll up a little more clearly. Many just bring their hands up.

We already have had a thread on rolling- kwan--don't care to revisit the same stuff...
occam's razor-simple.

Folks can do whatever they want to.

With good wishes,

joy chaudhuri[

[MOSHE]

[QUOTE=k gledhill;1116989]Whats the strategy, tactics,

THE RULE IS TO USE THE STRAIGHT LINE FROM YOU START TILL YOU AIM

THE PROBLEM IS ,PEOPLE ARE NOT EVENT DOING A STRAIGHT PUNCH
PLUS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY ARE TRAINING ,AND THE WEAKNESS OF THE DUMMY WORK ,THEY CANNOT ENTER WITHOUT PHYSICAL FORCE TOWARD THE OPPONENT ARMS TO HIT HIS BODY IN THE SAME MOVEMENT

[k gledhill]

[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1117083]

At least one of the reposted links is "malformed" .
You can go back to the original links provided by kung fu fighter.

At one point in the last link Ng Chan
"rolls" his hands up rather than bringing them straight up.

Some roll up a little more clearly. Many just bring their hands up.

We already have had a thread on rolling- kwan--don't care to revisit the same stuff...
occam's razor-simple.

Folks can do whatever they want to.

With good wishes,


joy chaudhuri[

Its not kwan...either bringing straight up or round. Why aim down ? Why push to test ? Oh well .
Avoiding by playing the 'we did that thread'?
Tsk tsk tsk...

[k gledhill]

[QUOTE=MOSHE;1117084]

Whats the strategy, tactics,

THE RULE IS TO USE THE STRAIGHT LINE FROM YOU START TILL YOU AIM

THE PROBLEM IS ,PEOPLE ARE NOT EVENT DOING A STRAIGHT PUNCHi
PLUS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY ARE TRAINING ,AND THE WEAKNESS OF THE DUMMY WORK ,THEY CANNOT ENTER
WITHOUT PHYSICAL FORCE TOWARD THE OPPONENT ARMS TO HIT HIS BODY IN THE SAME MOVEMENT

Punching with alignment, force and use lin sil si da to attack the person while not being deviated by arm chasing takes good coaching.

[MOSHE]

TO LONETIGER

. But I thought you were kind of saying that this was 'special' knowledge or something?
THE KNOW HOW ,THE PRECISION ...

The hidden 'legwork/kicks' is something I am very familiar with too,

I DONT THINK WE SPEAK ABOUT THE SAME.THATS REALLY SHORT TAOS NO DRILLS
IF ANYONE CAN TELL ME HOW MUCH THERE IS ?
WHAT ARE THEIR FUNCTIONS ?




But from what you say here, you have the 'key' to developing 'original' Wing Chun power but are having difficulty with the knifes power/strength generation?

YOU CERTAINLY THINK THAT MOVEMENTS IN THE AIR ARE EQUAL TO MASTER SOMETHING,(IT IS NOT A CRITIC,ALL THE OTHER GUYS ARE THINKING LIKE THAT)
IN A PREVIOUS POST ,I PROPOSE TWO TESTS
ARE YOU SUCCEFULL IN THEM?
ANSWER TO THIS ONE PLEASE ,WHAT SIMPLY MAKE THE DIFFERENCE AND THE DIFFICULTY USING THE KNIVES COMPARING TO THE HANDS ?



Thanks for the reply too, but I would also advise that you listen to people like Joy when he says that there were more people than you may think who learnt this 'original' stuff from Ip Man [/QUOTE]


WITHOUT DISRESPECT ,IT IS NOT POSSIBLE.
FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THERE ONLY ONE OR TWO BY GENERATION
THE ONE CHOOSE HAS TO LIVE WITH MASTER
SO ALL THE PRIVATE TEACHING DONT COUNT FOR THAT.AND JUST NG CHAN WAS LIVING WITH IP MAN
LIKE IP MAN LIVED WITH LEUNG BIK
KI PING PUN WITH NG CHAN
ME WITH KI PING PUN
THATS THE ONLY WAY TO CATCH THE STYLE

BESIDES WE KNOW THE NAMES
AND NONE OF ONE IP MAN STUDENT ,IF THEY KNEW IT ,COULD HAVE SPEAK OPENLY ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THE OATH THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE

KI PING PUN IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION

[WC1277]

[QUOTE=k gledhill;1117088]

Its not kwan...either bringing straight up or round. Why aim down ? Why push to test ? Oh well .
Avoiding by playing the 'we did that thread'?
Tsk tsk tsk...

Once again Kevin, for the last time because I surely don't want to revisit that thread either, kwan sau is the motion. It's not the end movement. You can have many different end movements with the motion of kwan. Whatever the guy is doing with pushing on his hands has nothing to do with the kwan sau motion.....