where u get so much monies for all those books? im jealousOriginally Posted by TenTigers
the ass assassin
where u get so much monies for all those books? im jealous
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I'm afraid your Chinese friends are incorrect in their pronunciation.
Although the character is for "fall" (dit), the pronunication when used in conjunction with the character for "hit" (da) is: tit da. This is the common pronunciation. They may be "over-correcting" themselves because the "literary" pronunciation is indeed "dit".
Here are some posts which discuss this:
http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/pho...4552#msg-74552
This Chinese blog post describes how the "fall" character is pronounced "tit" in the Song and Yuan dynasties but changes to "dit" in the Ming. We do pronounce it as "dit" in modern times, but carry over the old pronunciation in the compound term "tit da" as described in the 1st post.I think 跌 had both a literary pronunciation [dit3] and colloquial pronunciation [tit3] for quite a long period. After some lapse of time, the colloquial pronunciation [tit3] has become obsolete but has been retained only for the case of 跌打.
http://neoyumkung.blogspot.com/2007/05/blog-post.html
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thank you, i will tell my chinese frineds they are speaking chinese incorrectly.
or maybe they are just humoring me???
O Sifu
YES!!!!
I think I found my new career. Me getting laid off is the best thing ever. Now I can be a professional martial arts book reviewer!
Actually Teet, I'd be glad to do it. Thanks for the props and I look forward to reading and reviewing!
About the Old School Kung Fu book and Chinese spelling - It seems that the author tends to avoid Chinese spelling unless it is necessary. I can appreciate someone in Chinese Martial Arts who doesn't try to pretend he speaks/reads or writes Chinese and trys to use English to get the concepts across. But where English won't suffice, the author does his best to use the most common spelling of chinese words.
"Grow through Pain." - Tainan Mantis
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It could be a genuine "mistake". If you just read the characters straight it would be "dit da", but just about everyone knows it as "teet da".
Print out the Chinese blogpost. It might convince them of the "error" of their ways.
O Sifu
Just letting you all know that I'm still unemployed and will be willing to review books/ DVD's for free.
Teetsao!!!!!
Also, get your Old School Kung Fu book NOW!!!!
Not bad for marketing eh?
"Grow through Pain." - Tainan Mantis
Itinerant practitioner
you too could become gainfully employed and build your skill set to a level where you can command a salary that allows you to buy books instead of begging for money.
time+effort=fat wallet
true story.
Kung Fu is good for you.
Banned
No that's a flaw in thinking. Greasing your elbow a bit doesn't automatically make you privileged or deserving of compensation, that's a problem with people in this country. Time + positive results = fat wallet. If I have 2 employees and one works his ass off compared to the other guy, but the other guy brings better results, guess which one I'm going to promote?you too could become gainfully employed and build your skill set to a level where you can command a salary that allows you to buy books instead of begging for money.
time+effort=fat wallet
true story.
This is equally applicable to kung fu. time + effort =/= skill, esp when guys with a few months of mma or the like can usually mop the floor with most TMA types even with years of "training".
Itinerant practitioner
? what are you talking about? lol that reads like some mlm salespitch.
time+effort=result if you work, you will make money. period. I didn't say you'd get rich, I said you get a fat wallet, but if you spend all your money on meth, you can work as hard as you like and you will not get a fat wallet, but you will get results.
a few months mma guy can mop the floor with most tma types really? Now that's delusional. How the heck is he supposed to do that? Go beat up a shotokan fatty?
holy crap! live the dream dude.
Kung Fu is good for you.
Banned
Guy A works 40 hours a week for 2 years and averages 15 car sales/week.
Guy B works 60 hours a week for 15 years and averages 8.
Guy A works less, produces more, gets promotion becomes boss.
Guy B turns to drinking, loses wife, pays child support on non promoted paycheck.
Not hard to understand.
Itinerant practitioner
you're making this stuff up in your head.
I am talking about getting a job, not browning it up to the top.
why the disconnect?
Kung Fu is good for you.
Banned
No, I'm providing a hypothetical to illustrate that time + effort does not guarantee success (in this case, fat wallet). This is the same thing people are saying all the time, especially right now with everyone losing their jobs they've been at for years while younger, less experienced, but more productive people are taking them. Effort doesn't mean a thing. Results matter. And they don't necessarily go hand in hand. This isn't hard...
Registered User
Usually older people get layed off not because of productivity, but because their seniority, accrued raises, and accrued perks are costlier to the company than the loss of their experience would be.
Just muddying the whole non sequitor further, carry on.
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I have an idea: buy my book and fatten my wallet! LOL
As far as business in this country goes, time+effort does not always equal fat wallet.
Nor does time + positive results always equal fat wallet.
Results don't always matter. Many CEO's of huge corporations got multi-million dollar bonuses when their companies lost millions or even billions and have major layoffs of employees. No one ever said capitalism is fair (but I'll take it over socialism or communism any day).
SoCo- I totally get your analogies; you have a consistent theme to your postings. As my former student, you sure seem to have a bone to pick with TCMA and apparently feel it was all a waste of time. However, I thought I consistently stated that the ultimate goal of kung fu was radiant health and longevity, not simply to kick asre. Kung fu IMHO is a martial ART which is about developing the spirit more than anything else.
If time+effort=/=skill, then why not simply get a concealed carry permit, buy a cannon, and go to the range 1-2 hours a week? Thats truly minimum effort, maximum results. If the majority of your time isn't working knife, defensive tactics, combat handgunning, and studying the legalities of the use of lethal force, then it isn't "reality based" either.
Make no misunderstanding, I do like MMA/BJJ and even had my friend John G. come to my school and teach BJJ seminars. Not sure if you were there or not for those. I even took a few seminars with the likes of Royce Gracie and Frank Shamrock. I think it was Mighty B on another thread who said that all TCMA students who want to really fight should get a blue belt in BJJ and I think that is true as well.
MMA/BJJ has made an impact on the world of martial arts, some good and some bad. The good is that it was a real "wake up call" to those with ineffective self-defense skills and overblown claims of invincibility. The bad is that it's focus on glorification of the ego seduces those who are most prone to commit violence- young males- and seems to bring out the worst in their personalities.
Whereas TMA is designed to specifically develop traits such as respect and humility, MMA has done a poor job overall in that area (there are some notable exceptions). Maybe I'm just showing my age, but I feel that because of the nature of the sport and the appeal it has on young people, it has a broader social responsibility that it has failed to meet.
For everyone else, I'll specifically address some of the previous critisms of my book in another post.
Eric Hunstad
www.OldSchoolKungFuNow.com
Banned
My bone with TCMA is with its lack of progression. It has failed to evolve to the current state of things. That is largely on the part of practitioners who have no desire to develop fighting ability. If that's what kung fu is to become then so be it. But that isn't a martial art. That's ballet, that's gymnastics. That's got nothing to do with fighting other than lead many to a severely dilluded belief in their ability to properly defend themselves. Spirit and health can be found in many avenues. And to be honest, kung fu isn't really the pinnacle of health development either. That goes equally well for most all TMA. And as for MMA developing poor social traits. The MMA gyms I have been in have every bit as much of a tight knit familial atmosphere developing team work, ethics, humility as any other sport I've played. When it comes to glorification of ego, I'm reminded of a phone call we got at the gym from one of our now major fighters. He was pretty full of himself to say the least. Thing is, it took ONE training session for him to see just how wrong he was. One session humbled him right up. And more than that, he's gotten off the alcohol, doesn't fight in the streets and works hard in his job. All the things that TMA would be claimed for bringing about. And really, that group of team mates (because make no mistake MMA is very much a team sport) has been about the only thing as close to the unity and support structure as I had in the military. There is a very different view in the gym than from looking through the window outside...
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