WC is totally effective, if you let it to be.

[Wayfaring]

Could someone please help me figure out what he’s saying pertaining to my post or premise, he said some people here really understand the connection?

I think Andrew was just saying that as it pertains to BJJ and ground skills that many of the fundamentals and movements are not intuitive at all.

If you are untrained in specifics it is likely you will move the wrong way just going off of athletic movements. Good movement chains in BJJ are like a chess game - each move is designed to elicit a movement which leads to the next move in the sequence which leads to checkmate.

[Happy Tiger]

Wing Chun is devastating within it's own idiom. This is no insult. Just as fisticuffs(bare knuckle, fair upright,modern boxing) is a subset of Pankraton, VT is invaluable in it's own right but is part of a larger picture. There is a beginning and end to it's sphere as it stands now.. If it thinks it's the living end, no good. If it works with other methods, invaluable

[Vajramusti]

Wing Chun is devastating within it's own idiom. This is no insult. Just as fisticuffs is a subset of Pankraton, VT is invaluable in it's own right but is part of a larger picture. There is a beginning and end to it's sphere as it stands now.. If it thinks it's the living end, no good. If it works with other methods, invaluable

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Your opinion and every one has one.

joy chaudhuri

[Ali. R]

I think Andrew was just saying that as it pertains to BJJ and ground skills that many of the fundamentals and movements are not intuitive at all.

If he’s saying that, then he’s agreeing with my premise as far as “mental development” first; within the system you train, because looking at something and thinking that you have it all figured out is a fool’s way to go. I’m talking about development and not intuition.

[Happy Tiger]

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Your opinion and every one has one.

joy chaudhuri

Like something else every one has one of..
You're right

[Happy Tiger]

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Your opinion and every one has one.

joy chaudhuri

Look at muay thai...devastating...a complete martial art. But willing to share stage and integrate with other foreign arts. It is a very common striking art used in MMA, combined with whatever. Maybe if VT learned to play well with others a bit more,it would advance the art in un for seen ways

[GlennR]

Look at muay thai...devastating...a complete martial art. But willing to share stage and integrate with other foreign arts. It is a very common striking art used in MMA, combined with whatever. Maybe if VT learned to play well with others a bit more,it would advance the art in un for seen ways

Muay Thai hasnt integrated, its MMA that has.
MT is pretty much the striking style for most MMA guys...... not the other way round

[imperialtaichi]

Wing Chun is devastating within it's own idiom. This is no insult. Just as fisticuffs(bare knuckle, fair upright,modern boxing) is a subset of Pankraton, VT is invaluable in it's own right but is part of a larger picture. There is a beginning and end to it's sphere as it stands now.. If it thinks it's the living end, no good. If it works with other methods, invaluable

Recently I've been working with a trainer who trains San-Da and Kickboxing fighters. His kicks are really really awesome. Strong as trucks and unpredictable as snakes. I've been teaching him KL22 methods to get out of ropes and corners, and he's been teaching me his kicking methods.

Win-win for both of us.

And we both like to play with knives

[Vajramusti]

Look at muay thai...devastating...a complete martial art. But willing to share stage and integrate with other foreign arts. It is a very common striking art used in MMA, combined with whatever. Maybe if VT learned to play well with others a bit more,it would advance the art in un for seen ways

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Thx you are welcome to your opinion. I analyses and when opportunity arises use wing chun to deal with other arts. Wing chun remains my game and the game keeps developing..

joy chaudhuri