Kung Fu (Hung) Concepts Basic Entries, Grabs & Misc

[YouKnowWho]

In your 2nd clip, I like what you did for

- grab your opponent's wrist,
- when your opponent tries to break your wrist grabbing, you change your wrist grab into a punch,
- when your opponent grab your wrist, you drop elbow into his chest,
- you use hand to push on your opponent's elbow joint and force his leading arm to jam his back arm,
- ...

One interest thing is, when your opponent grabs on your wrist, in order to break his wrist grip, sometime he forces you to make the following 2 decisions:

You may twist your arm against his

- thumb, this will take less effort, but sometime you may open yourself up (this is why he grabs you this way).
- 4 fingers, this will take more effort, but you won't expose your center.

The game plan is applied right at this moment.

[Subitai]

I'm glad you caught that John...very observant about turning towards the thumb or the back of the hand ( 4 fingers)

I was exactly trying to explain those observations right here in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVMxxZJnPz0&t=2m42s

[YouKnowWho]

That's a good clip too. I like your counter against the triangle shoulder lock. I have seen many teachers teach that offense move. I haven't seen many teachers teach counter for that move.

Does your system train how to "catch a fast punch"? Many people said that a full speed punch is impossible to grab. IMO, nothing is impossible. If you train 100 fast punches catching daily, your successful rate will be higher. If you are used to catch a fast punch, you can catch a slow punch, or non moving arm much easier. Some people also say that is "chasing arm". But it has a lot value for my favor "octopus strategy". I enjoy that kind of challenge in my daily training very much.

What's your opinion on the training for "catching a fast punch (wrist grab)"?

[Subitai]

That's a good clip too. I like your counter against the triangle shoulder lock. I have seen many teachers teach that offense move. I haven't seen many teachers teach counter for that move.

Does your system train how to "catch a fast punch"? Many people said that a full speed punch is impossible to grab. IMO, nothing is impossible. If you train 100 fast punches catching daily, your successful rate will be higher. If you are used to catch a fast punch, you can catch a slow punch, or non moving arm much easier. Some people also say that is "chasing arm". But it has a lot value for my favor "octopus strategy". I enjoy that kind of challenge in my daily training very much.

What's your opinion on the training for "catching a fast punch (wrist grab)"?

Now you are really talking about fighting...at least in a modern sense. I respect that because nobody will just punch and hold their hand out there.

To a degree...In my HG concepts series 1, I tried to address one aspect of dealing with this (i.e. a fast punch)

Most options are:

1) Avoid it all together (usually with superior footwork and body spacing ) and or hit back simultaneously.

2) Intercept it...be it a block or padding type motion (to soften it) and also using a hook to slow it down...to also hit back

3) Catch it... which is really a discussion all by itself.

-In my opinion the better you are...the more you just set your opponent up and allow him to GIVE it to you.
-It always works better this way, as opposed to trying it immediately right at the very start of the fight perhaps on the very 1st punch. No not a good idea.

- How the catch is done is usually a combination of block, intercept and also IMO...the use of a 2 on 1 senario. Meaning 2 hands vs 1 arm / wrist.
This, in combination with good fighting experience will get the job done. You just know "when to hold them and when to fold them"

...I can't believe i quoted Kenny Rogers!

[YouKnowWho]

Agree!

1) Dodge - too conservative, your opponent will punch you again.
2) Intercept - more aggressive but not aggressive enough.
3) Catch/wrap - the most aggressive approach, also the most difficult to achieve, but the reward is great. You can take your opponent's punching ability away and force him to play your favor grappling game (if you are a grappler).

I also agree that if you are in your opponent's

- side door, 2 on 1 is much easier and safer approach. You can use your opponent's leading arm to jam his back arm.
- front door, separate hands (your right arm wraps on your opponent's left arm, and your left arm wraps on his right arm) may be better. You can use both hands to control both of his arms.

-It always works better this way, as opposed to trying it immediately right at the very start of the fight perhaps on the very 1st punch. No not a good idea.

The 1st punch usually is not a committed punch. It's easy to catch the thin air and fall into your opponent's trap. One of my favor set ups is to throw a fake punch, when my opponent blocks it, I pull my punch back, and punch him again right at the same spot "after" his blocking arm is passed.

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Traditional Drills 2

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