Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post

Why to people who like to claim "camp MMA" when talking about CMA, always seem to ignore the circuts that CMA does fight in? Its always "MMA proves it in the ring"

what about full contact CMA comps? They arent nearly as poplular, but they are around if you look for them.
Many of the peole you call "camp MMA" ARE San Da people.....

The only real full contact CMA venue is San Da.... right now those competitions are filled with San Da specific gyms, some Shuai Jiai, Muay Thai and MMA guys... the silk PJ forms doing people are NOT doing full contact for the most part, ie that's the problem