For those who believe in the street-vs-sport ("real fighting") notion:
Back to Bagua (Moashan) vs. muay thai (Nakmeezy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4ls7SAbN24
That was sport, right? And Moashan sucked. Both in skill and in conditioning, right.
Now listen to what Moashan says, particularly at 30 s in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bxOTmOZELA
"Fighting for the ring is a specialty . . . but training for health and self defense, and training for the ring are two different things."
Then again at 1:07
"I had been training to fight light . . . this is a street-thing, a complete street thing."
And ESPECIALLY at 4:35
"For getting in the ring you have to train . . . for life and death purposes, that's something different . . . ."
Now go back and watch his PERFORMANCE, how he had no power, no skill, no technique, nothing he did really worked.
Now, let's take him from the ring and put him on the street -- will he now have power, now have skill, have technique, be able to make everything work? No. He'll suck just as badly. Even if it were life-and-death.
Yet, he thinks he should train really hard for the ring, but NOT for life-and-death!
Skill works. Conditioning works. Skill and conditioning come from good, solid training. That skill and conditioning can be used anywhere -- if you have it. If you don't, then you can't use it, whether the ring or street or life-and-death. This is what Moashan and the street-sport guys don't grasp -- it's not about street-vs-sport or "real fighting", that's a red-herring. It is about skill and conditioning.