I think videos of this is much superior, it is talking about general fighting principles also, and the material presented makes sense and is logical. I like this one in particular:'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPCWSNzaU3o
I think videos of this is much superior, it is talking about general fighting principles also, and the material presented makes sense and is logical. I like this one in particular:'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPCWSNzaU3o
It is bias to think that the art of war is just for killing people. It is not to kill people, it is to kill evil. It is a strategem to give life to many people by killing the evil of one person.
- Yagyū Munenori
I used to practice Cheung's system. This stuff used to make sense to me as well, I used to teach it all the time. But when I would watch our level 9 & 10 tests, which included random attack defences (straight, round, hook, low, backfist, kicks, etc,,) no one (including myself)could ever pull it off like Cheung demo's, simply because there are too many movements and steps to do (no economy of motion). Basically there's allot of chasing hands & trying to run around the guy to out flank him, rather than taking the guys space and making him run or turn. William is very good at selling his stuff. What I do now when I watch demo's or explainations of things is watch the guy throwing the punches, in this one Joe is throwing weak punches and not tracking his target. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndhjwSXTrz4 , watch the 1st 2 min of this clip, Cheung vs Boxer, see how they are going around in cirlces as they lightly spar, and watch how the boxer is throwing his punches, compared to the way he punches when they show him shadow boxing, big difference.
My advice to William would be (at the moment his pak is on the outside of Joe's arm in the original clip) to step right into Joe with his own strike, take up his space and balance while striking, that way Joe's ability to counter is lessened, your ability to hit is increased and economy of motion and directness is involved, sorta like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sviizp-Bmgw. One needs a stable/adaptable structure to pull this off, not all WC has that development in their curriculum.
James
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It is bias to think that the art of war is just for killing people. It is not to kill people, it is to kill evil. It is a strategem to give life to many people by killing the evil of one person.
- Yagyū Munenori
Yup, my coach Ernie is headquartered there, www.abmvt.com, he has a more modern approach to Ving Tsun than most, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_euVr...&feature=feedu as an example.
I agree, that clip of William was a much better one, as compared to some of his other stuff, I've seen him do much better but the majority of stuff he puts out is substandard IMO.
James
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5ZvQ...eature=fvwkrel , more VT orientated vid
To tell you the truth, I don't think he really cares, I'm startin to feel that way too. The WC world is full of sheep looking to be lead.
James
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LOL, sheep, I say we make shish
Ah, this thread and WC people...
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
I like that clip because it's just what we do. I'm glad you found what you like. What I do works for me and our guys who fight. So I'm very happy with what you do. The way to find out what works is to fight with it outside of your school. We do and are successful. James, if you're fighting and winning then good for you. Let me add. I competed using "Popular" WC against kickboxers. You know, the WC you do regardless of how different you say it is from other WC. I found that TWC worked better in the ring. That's why we have boxers training with us. Please enter a full contact event against good kickboxers and let us know how well you do. I wish you success of course.
Last edited by Phil Redmond; 03-30-2011 at 03:45 PM.
Does anyone know much about Kwok Fu, theres a video on him on youtube that basically he says William Cheung and WSL are not that great?
here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OH1PR7uDQ
Also here is another interview by him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRYkzHIQ1W0
Kwok fu claims the Hong Kong wing chun is missing many vital things such as the bagua bo
hskwarrior ,
Are you a WC or CLF expert ? GM Cheung was just explaining how the fight between the CKF man and himself took place on that particular day . Just like if someone was throwing a straight vertical fist punch at your face , you would automatically react in a certain way against that particular punch right ?
The youtube clip you were talking about is based on an instructional DVD GM Cheung produced . And he used his own student to demo of what happened on that particular day . If he called on a CLF man then the situation would have turned into some thing else . But hskwarrior inorder to find out go and challenge GM Cheung to a fight . Because it ' s very easy to criticize somebody right ? But really challenging the man is a whole different story . If you beat him great , but if you lose then that ' s the truth right there ?
In other words instead of talking bad about the man go and challenge him .
That ' s the only way to find out if he ' s good or not .
Lance
No i study Tai Chi. Sorry.hskwarrior ,
Are you a WC or CLF expert
Can you PLEASE direct me to the location where i was talking bad about ANYONE?In other words instead of talking bad about the man go and challenge him .
That ' s the only way to find out if he ' s good or not .
Last edited by hskwarrior; 04-06-2011 at 06:42 PM.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
I can't read! i only look at pictures! oh wait how did i just respond to you? I'm SPECIAL!You wrote:
"My name is hskwarrior and I think William Cheung is poopy and I hate him"
Geez frank, didnt you even read your post there? It is on page 50 of this thread. haha
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better