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Well, that is part of the reason I posted it in this thread. It just looked good for what it was.
Perhaps, as a Baji practitioner, you are better qualified to make comments and criticisms than I am.
All I can say at this point is that sometimes a movement may not look "right" on a form, until someone hits you with it.
Also, no matter the details of the form in the way it was performed for camera, the same sifu may do it differently in a class, so it may not be fair to be to vocal about the criticisms.
Thank you for taking time to explain the details. Again, some of what you say makes sense, other stuff may have made sense, either way, if I was Baji pracitioner.
Again, I saw some moves that seemed to exert power. Others may have been lacking fajing, but again, sometimes in kung fu, you don't see the fajing, you feel it on contact. That is why I am "careful".
Well, have a look at the description of that video clip and you will see Shanxi written in that exact manner.
Here, I believe that this is the same sifu.Originally Posted by omarthefish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXglA...eature=related
Thank you for posting. To be honest, this is the first time I see shouting in a Baji clip. Is this how your lineage practices this particular form or was this just to enhance the form during a public performance?
From my readings and research, Grand Master Liu Yun Qiao seems to have been the real deal in the same wain as CTS of Lama Pai and Chee Kim Thong of Five Ancestor Fist (and other styles), so if someone asks to put up a video clips of what I consider authentic Baji, these would be a couple of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9-jg...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHiRq...eature=related
He is being kind to you?
You should be. Now run back to your glorified Tae Kwon Do dojang and hop around until you get happy, thank you....
I believe that even the word "Taoism" is way above your (knuckle) head. So, don't waste our time with trying to come across as smart....run along now to your "kung fu-ist" Tae Kwon Do brothers are waiting for you.....
It's like a bad joke for anyone to be criticizing practitioners from Li Shu Wen's lineage.
It is bias to think that the art of war is just for killing people. It is not to kill people, it is to kill evil. It is a strategem to give life to many people by killing the evil of one person.
- Yagyū Munenori
lol, yet you critique someone with far more expertise in it than you, having no clue what you are talking about at all;
srsly? ur entire existence on the forum is to shout out things you don't know about;
consider it part of my civic duty; I am like the town crier announcing the arrival of the village idiot...
Emphasis mine. Just my eye of course and I don't like to trash performances so I'd like to emphasize again, very precise movement there, looked good. Just not seeing any Baji body-method that I recognize. IMO, no actual power.Originally Posted by HardWork108
Yeah, I saw that and it's a really minor side issue because technically, that's the correct pinyin for the place name but the problem is that there are 2 provinces in China which, if you eliminate the tonal inflection, are pronounced identical. So just as a linguistic convention, 陕西 usually gets an extra “a" in the middle to try and imply the 3rd tone pronunciation where 山西 (first tone) gets only one "a". Shanxi、山西 is a major center for Xingyi in China, especially Song style. Shaanxi/陕西 is next to Sichuan and is not famous for any martial arts because it's martial arts community lives there mostly as a result of mid 20th century history. The Chinese characters at the beginning of the clip say it's Shaanxi/陕西. To an English speaker they sound the same but this is Shanxi:Well, have a look at the description of that video clip and you will see Shanxi written in that exact manner.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Shanxi.svg.png
And this is Shaanxi:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4...ceplacesin.jpg
A better question is why nobody else shouts. It's in the quanpu. There are even pictures out there of Liu Yunqiao standing in front of big Chinese calligraphy that says stuff about the shouting because it's so integral to the style. Google "heng ha breathing" for more info. "heng" is a nasal growl that shows up more in the small frame set and "ha" is the shout and is basically the same idea as a kiai. There's "heng" in my video too but not as audible. I ended up using a lot more "heng" in my leitai fight because. . . . of the mouth guard of course.Thank you for posting. To be honest, this is the first time I see shouting in a Baji clip. Is this how your lineage practices this particular form or was this just to enhance the form during a public performance?
I'll look at the clips later. I know it sounds cliche but...I actually have to head out and train. It's early morning here at the moment and I was just using the board to pass the time while I drink my morning Joe.
aka: Bailewen - 白乐文
Me using Baji in a match
Me performing Dabaji and taking silver at a national comp in China (Got gold medals too but no video)
www.xiangwuhui.com
....back again. Waiting for a DVD to finish burning. I promised I'd burn Shifu another copy of our recent Leitai event. My "elder brother" asked for one.
The Liu Yunqiao clips are not my taste but they are undeniably good. Notice how, in contrast to the "MTV Baji" guy, his punches are actual punches. They stab out really sharp. His whole body snaps into place rather than planting his feet first and then whipping the hands around into place. Notice how his knees are slightly turned in on the "horse stance".
The Baji I like looks more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA9a9...eature=related
Those guys are doing excellent, classic Bajiquan.
More Baji that I find absolutely top flight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lli7E...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUYxK9oIhHI
Compare those clips I just posted with the MTV clip. Look at how narrow their horse is. Look at the angle that the elbow comes in. Follow the trajectory of the punches. They are all very practical.
aka: Bailewen - 白乐文
Me using Baji in a match
Me performing Dabaji and taking silver at a national comp in China (Got gold medals too but no video)
www.xiangwuhui.com
Omar what do you think about Zhou Jingxuan's Bajiquan? What lineage is he from also?
Just sheer curiosity.
Cheers,
-V
It is bias to think that the art of war is just for killing people. It is not to kill people, it is to kill evil. It is a strategem to give life to many people by killing the evil of one person.
- Yagyū Munenori
I suppose it's like kiai within the Japanese schools of thought. He means within Bajiquan, since it is stated within the quanpu as part of the system's fundamental theories.
It is bias to think that the art of war is just for killing people. It is not to kill people, it is to kill evil. It is a strategem to give life to many people by killing the evil of one person.
- Yagyū Munenori