Last edited by wenshu; 08-11-2011 at 01:55 PM.
He was 1 emperor from the dynasty who ruled for 6 years.
He persecuted Buddhism because it was at it's peak, and it's temples were becoming fabulously wealthy, were tax free and landowners would make deals on the side etc etc.
so, anyway, this 1 emperor with a 6 year reign is a blip.
I find it interesting that despite these facts you would make futile attempts at refuting my incredible storehouse of knowledge.
I'll forgive you your ignorance because you in particular have good control of the english language and have shown some worthy wit along the way.
Kung Fu is good for you.
I will not forgive this impertinence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_A...st_PersecutionAccording to the report prepared by the Board of Worship, there were 4,600 monasteries, 40,000 hermitages (places of retreat), 260,500 monks and nuns. The emperor issued edicts that Buddhist temples and shrines be destroyed, that all monks (desirables as well as undesirables) be defrocked, that the property of the monasteries be confiscated, and that Buddhist paraphernalia be destroyed.[10] An edict providing that foreign monks be defrocked and returned to their homelands resulted in Ennin's expulsion from China.[11] By the edict of AD 845 all the monasteries were abolished with very few exceptions.
Can requisite #1 be established in a dream, that a living being is actually present? If not, then there's nothing more to talk about.
If you think killing in one's dream is karmically negative (because to you it doesn't matter if the killing physical happens or not), from a Buddhist point of view, you're plain wrong.
If even dreams produce negative karma, who has hope of escaping Saṃsāra?
Little do you know, what you are arguing against is even from Pali Canon/ Theravada roots. It's the most basic Buddhist understanding of karma taught by the Buddha, yet you are attacking it.For me,
The above type of Thinking mind theory is dangerous and misleading because the person who postulate these taking Thinking Mind / reasoning realm is the master realm of all.
where in fact, Thinking Mind realm are just a small part of the reality and it is the based of dellusion which cause one to reincarnate over and over.
Thinking Mind is the poison which rob one's buddha nature as the Zen practice put it. Knock this Thinking Mind bondage is the first step of the practice of Zen.
Killing is Killing with or without physical. one makes an intention, one has done it. physical or non physical both are within Non dual. Thus, the Buddha teaches " do good never do bad, always clean out one's intention, that is the teaching of the Buddhas".
The above type of theory is not clean out one's intention, instead, keep playing lawyer to defend one's distorted and poisoned intention. or trying to walking in the gray zone, in fact there is no gray zone, either one intended or not?
you raise a killing intention, you have stored it. you are going to attrack killing. there is a killing consequence, unless you clean it. The Buddha nature doesnt care about killer or victim, one sets an intention of killing it is consider done. Mind is just a creating instrument, what you store in it, it manifest.
As I said, you're welcome to have your own view, but don't try presenting it as Buddhist.
Are you actually a Christian?Originally Posted by Hendrik
As in; "Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
Fortunately, karma in Buddhism doesn't work like that, and the Buddha is not a celestial judge, jury, and executioner convicting people of thought crime.
“Bodhisattvas and bhikshus who practice purity will not
even step on grass in the pathway; even less will they pull it up
with their hand. How can one with great compassion pick up
the flesh and blood of living beings and proceed to eat his fill? ----- Shurangama sutra
It is not a philosophy. it is a practice.
Your view is your view, it is not " a Buddhist point of view".
I dont think. I am telling you the fact which I learn from the teaching of the Buddha.
Yes, even in dreams produce negative karma , dream and awake has no different. you make an intention you make an intention.
if you cannot handle your dream, you can not even handle your daily emotion, you cannot handle Bardo state; and thus you can not escape samsara or your own reincarnation.
Your theory is sound but it cant do anything toward escape samasara ; because ; that is not the teaching of Buddha but your own theory based on you logic.
you keep arguing is going to get you even more into deep trap. If you dont even know about the samadhi to handle your dream and Brado, your journey in Buddhism is not even begin yet.
Little do you know, what you are arguing against is even from Pali Canon/ Theravada roots. It's the most basic Buddhist understanding of karma taught by the Buddha, yet you are attacking it.
As I said, you're welcome to have your own view, but don't try presenting it as Buddhist.
I am talking Bottom line.
You dont even know one can handle dream, how can you handle mara?
how can you handle your own brado state?
you are doing philosophy study which is limited to your thinking mind activity; and not practicing Buddhism.
So how can you call those stuffs you post Buddhist point of view?
using your view to argue against Shurangama sutra and Shao Lin Chan is totally off mark.
Chan can penetrate Bardo because Chan has the same power as the Maha mudra. Chan penetrate beyond Thinking Mind and Mara. Thus, it is called the practice of Varja sword.
Does one has the Varja Sword? Have one ever see one even if one doenst have it?
It is totally ignorance to read a few books and sutras, inteplating them as one wants and call that Buddhist point of view. If it is that simple, the Second Patriach of Shao Lin, doesnt have to kneeling in the snow and beg Damo.
Last edited by Hendrik; 08-11-2011 at 03:57 PM.
even without human philosophy, the whole universe exist , running perfectly, and the animal live as they are; careless of what human reasoning and philosophy is about.
Buddhism is not a philosophy.
In one's brado state, there is no philosophy but can one see throught the illusion. when one faces to select to be reborn into different realm, even the mind set is totally twisted. how can one handle that? if one cant then one get trap.
eating meat become a loading when one cultivating Samadhi. Chan Wu Yi is based on Samadhi and Sidhi. it is not a sport or physical exercise as most think.
Last edited by Hendrik; 08-11-2011 at 03:20 PM.
Citation please? Before you make up anything else and attribute it to the Buddha, please provide the reference from which you get these ideas.
It's present even in Theravāda commentaries, besides Mahāyāna sources.So how can you call those stuffs you post Buddhist point of view?
Hammalawa Saddhatissa, Buddhist Ethics. Wisdom Publications, 1997, pages 60, 159.
I wasn't arguing against either. I was arguing against your understanding of them, and not just with my view but with Buddhist sources.using your view to argue against Shurangama sutra and Shao Lin Chan is totally off mark.
So stop doing it.It is totally ignorance to read a few books and sutras, inteplating them as one wants and call that Buddhist point of view.