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Why do you assume the changes DFW made were fundamental and/or made the form any better or worse than the original he learned? Huge assumption man. Jake doesn't suck because he learned a crap form, he sucks because he learned a good form from a crap teacher who learned it from a book and never fully understood what was in the book in the first place because he had NO foundation whatsoever. He translated a TCMA form with modern american karate eyes. I can't think of a worse CMA teacher. At least somebody who commits fraud but really knows nothing is building from scratch rather than passing one thing off as another.
Last edited by Syn7; 09-10-2012 at 03:41 PM.
You know what ever the Form this Jake dude is a joke from what I saw , who thinks he is any good any way no matter what form he does, Hell even his 1st stance in that 5 animal form sux. KC
A Fool is Born every Day !
The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
~ Mark Twain
Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
~ Joe Lewis
A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
~ Author unknown
"You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"
"Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"
The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
~ Mark Twain
Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
~ Joe Lewis
A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
~ Author unknown
"You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"
"Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"
Hey, with you tube and cell phone cameras, if it is out there and has the same name, shouldn't take long for it to surface. In your lifetime forsure. Who knows tho. It could still be a very rural form known by a small amount of people that grow their own food and don't give a fukc about youtube and outside opinion on their lineage. Some things never surface, doesn't mean they arent there tho.
Imagine sparring with swords if there was no fear of perma damage. It would get pretty ugly up in that motherfukcer, for sure.
I can't imagine decapitation being fixable anytime soon. I have high hopes for re growth of non essential limbs. Genetics, stem cells, 3d printing, cybernetics etc etc aren't that far off. But the head thing is gonna be a major hump, lol. Major organs being the second hardest. If you get stabbed in the heart, even if we can grow you a new heart, that doesn't address what happens to everything else when blood stops flowing or something allows necrosis to set in. Unless the injury occurs in an operating room ready for anything, it's gonna be tough. Think of the brain damage from even a simple minor stroke.
LOL...wtf are you guys talking about? Better yet, what are you smoking?
God d@mn this fukcing forum.
I just signed in, wrote a post, somehow was signed out, can't retrieve the old post, and can't be arsed to re-type the shiit.
It doesn't make me feel better that I can't even type swear words properly. Fukc.
Last edited by yeti; 09-10-2012 at 08:33 PM. Reason: Really?! Can't even use the word d a m n? Jesus, this is a god d@mn kiddie forum.
Yes sir, the check is in the mail!
Which Lo Pan, huh? Little old basket case on wheels or the ten foot tall road block?!
I'm from Vancouver. WTF you think I'm smokin'???
I just want to train weapons the way I train hands. Unfortunately I cannot. Nothing even comes close. Best I can do is suit up and swing some wood or a dull ass sword and even then, you can't practice all you would need for the real thing. Not that I intend on getting into a sword fight, but then I don't intend on getting into a fist fight or a gun fight and I'm proficient with those.
We were talking about 3d printers making replacement parts for people. It's already a reality. Not arms and legs, but organs. So far. 20 years ago our best bet was growing them, now we can print a PERFECT kidney in 3 hours. Now that is some sh1t!!!
You are correct that the honor concept is not maybe as embedded in CMA as it is in Japanese/Okinawan. I know there is a comparable honor component in CMA, but not exactly Bushido. Part of that struck me when I first watched Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, and the Chinese elders essentially backstabbed Bruce Lee in the "honor fight." [I'm aware that was fiction -- allegedly -- but its the concept I'm pointing out].
But, particularly for those who practice a more eclectic martial arts regimen, particularly who tries to pick the good from all styles, one who favors CMA techniques, forms, styles, doesn't have to shun a code of honor, even Bushido. Heck, shouldn't we have a moral code, a code of honor, a sense of trust and loyalty, whether it is CMA, J/OMA, Korean, whatever? Or for that matter, whether it is martial arts based or not, one doesn't generally want to betray another's trust, and I think one owes some loyalty to one who benefits them. I'm not sure the exchange of money eliminates that debt. But you are correct, it goes both ways, although does being betrayed justify betrayal? Or is it more moral, and more honorable, to take a higher road?
But maybe that's just me. Or what I hope would be me if it came down to it.
Just One Student
"I seek, not to know all the answers, but to understand the questions." --- Kwai Chang Caine
(I'd really like to know all the answers, too, but understanding the questions, like most of my martial arts practice, is a more realistically attainable goal)
I know this has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, but my Bushido sense tingled, so I am compelled share a favorite entry. IMO the title 'Samurai' can also be substituted with 'Warrior'
The Way of the Samurai is found in death.
Meditation on inevitable death should be performed daily.
Every day, when one's body and mind are at peace,
one should meditate upon being ripped apart by arrows,
rifles, spears, and swords, being carried away by surging waves,
being thrown into the midst of a great fire, being struck by lightning,
being shaken to death by a great earthquake,
falling from thousand-foot cliffs,
dying of disease or committing seppuku at the death of one's master.
And every day, without fail, one should consider himself as dead.
This is the substance of the Way of the Samurai.
For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.
Bushido is insanity. Sure, there are some great concepts that come from the code, but there's some serious bullsh1t up in there too. Not a concept I would want to follow blindly, that's for sure. I can't even begin to quantify the amount of suffering created by pride and honor. Far more bad than good tho, no doubt about that.
The conversation is interesting. I'll admit, that I am by no means an expert in the area of Chinese history or their culture or anthropology. Most of what I understand about it comes from Matt Polley and others who've spent time living over there. Consequently, what I do know is from a limited number of sources and also deals with the CMA community rather than the Chinese community at large. From what I've read,though, and I don't say this critically or judgmentally, there's more emphasis on saving face and appearances and less emphasis on whether what's being posited is ultimately true. Not to say that the society values or condones lying but rather it seems like they're more accepting of hyperbole and exageration (again in the martial arts culture; I don't know anything about the broader culture). I think these fundamental differences are why you hear about back room students verses students who, despite paying some sort of compensation, receive intentionally watered-down training. That's something you just don't seem to see as much in the transmission of JMA. Again, I'm not placing a value judgment on it. I've always elected to take CMAs over JMAs or KMAs. Starting judo this fall will be my first experience with JMA.