Jake, I wouldn't ever characterize Emin's Chi-Sau as limp. Actually, for a large, strong guy, he is surprizingly yielding, but there is still a lot of foward intent.
And, I don't believe he's a total bully either. He definitely holds back from hurting his students. I know a couple of EBMAS guys and they love him. But the people who train with him closely, train very physically. If they can't take it physically, they will get hurt. Maybe that's just good, realistic training. Not for me though. What I was getting at in my comment about Obasi, is that Emin wouldn't tolerate a challenging attitude like Obasi showed towards Randy Williams. No way.
Just a question for you guys,
You always hear allot about Philip Bayer on this forum and also Emin...I was wondering if these 2 gentleman have ever crossed hands?
Any first hand accounts?
Just curious because those 2 seem to be the spoken of very often.
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I have met and trained with Emin, years ago when he was still associated with LT and KK. To consider him old makes me feel bad myself as I believe I am older than him.
I have heard that Emin has mellowed over the years, I feel he was rather the Bully in the early days. Not taking anything away from his skill or training. Emin always did train hard no matter what, and you cannot take the resultant skill away from him.
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Exactly my point. I'm about 6 or 7 years older than Emin myself. Like you, I met him when he first came to the US back in the late 80's and had the same impression. He was pretty rough. Much later I met him again at some Latosa Escrima seminars I attended, and he was much mellower. He even introduced me to his students as their "uncle", even though I am not an EBMAS member. I thought that was generous.
really is this based on having seen |Emin fight full contact or on his reputation?
I ask because realistically only one of them as anything like a decent variable fight record, and whilst one has been in the cage and fought MMA the other went running when the Gracie's answered his challenge and begged students of john blumming not to fight him when they called him on his attitude (this was mentioned by bluming himself in a television interview here in the uk)
Just read the article from John Blumming, thanks its interesting...
http://www.realfighting.com/content.php?id=93