You deleted your other thread. Lol. Grow a pair and come back as a different name again.
That's something I've been noticing, but wanted to confirm that I'm not missing something important.
As the technique is in the style I do, your description helps quite a bit, and is similar in broad terms. Mind you, we try to use the left arms "rolling elbow" to collapse their right arm into their side, the left can then elbow on the way in, but we then attempt to continue the rolling elbow while stepping directly into their stance, replacing the lead foot with the rear, and initiating the reap in order to catch their rear leg as their footwork lifts from the ground from being pressed. Still deciding what I think of this approach, if the press pushes them too far, and you don't catch the rear leg, I find I have to give up on the reap and use other techniques to take advantage of the press.In either cases, after you have controlled your opponent's right arm, you can use your right elbow to smash on his face and use your right leg to take him down at the same time. In TCMA, this is called "black hand" because even if you use it in sport, most of the time the referee won't be able to tell whether you smash your elbow on your opponent's face on purpose or it's just an accident.
Ah! Thank you, maybe it should've been obvious, but I totally missed that!IMO, the best control is to use your:
- left arm to control your opponent's right arm (this can turn into an arm bar by using your left knee as leverage).
The thing is the core principle of the throw/sweep.
As long as you know WHEN and HOW to apply it, the occasion will present itself.
Never, ever go looking for a throw.
Let the occasion dictate the throw.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
For the outer reap over the arm no. When you deflect with the right hand you can either keep the palm down, grab and pull the arm, then reap or palm up and still pull or rather guide the arm with the back of the hand and then reap. Either way you basically let go of the arm when you throw them to the ground. For me the follow up on this one is to stomp, run away or drop on top of them and use grappling techniques and/or strikes from the ground.
If you use outer reap and go in under the arm then arm control to the ground can be maintained.
If you are going around for the choke then the control to the ground is their head. I think a blood choke works best for this. If the technique is done correctly you should already be grabbing for the blood choke while they are dropping to the ground. It's lights out pretty quickly if you are able to lock them down with your knee in their back and shoulder tight to the back of their head. An experienced or game fighter can escape this if your not tight enough so be prepared to stay on or retake their back and go for a more standard rear naked choke.
While I'm on chokes I'll talk about a variation of the rear naked I like to use. It's a one handed version that you can use if you have them wrapped up with your legs and one of their arms pinned under one of your legs. In this instance you can use just one hand to apply the choke. Instead of wrapping your hand around your arm you hug in close and wrap your hand around the back of your neck like you're giving yourself a half nelson. Then just lean your head back to apply the choke and use your free hand to block their free hand.
This is very true. Often times when doing San Shou training I notice other people and myself included looking for that throw, which often leads to telegraphing it. One of my favorites is hip throw from under-over lock which can be set up nice from a punch kick flurry that ends up in clinch or body lock, or from counter striking your opponent and ending up in this same position.
IMO, throws come more naturally if you execute when they present themself, and I feel this even more so in San Shou. Not to say that jacket wrestling or greco this isn't the case, but in those rule sets you don't have to worry about getting punched or kicked.
"The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". -Cus D'Amato