An oxymoron for people involved in any kind of kung fu , including meOriginally Posted by Hendrik
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An oxymoron for people involved in any kind of kung fu , including me
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acknowledge!!"He has led the public to believe that he himself is "Yik Kam Wing Chun’s successor and Cho Ga Wing Chun’s only inheritor".
Hi Daniel
thanks for posting that true statement. Coming down centerline, Mr. Hendrick Santos internet activity has him exposed.
http://www.wingchunpedia.org/pmwiki/...omHendrikSanto
Why the Weng chun system isnt related to the Yik kam Siu Lien Tau.
“Chi Sim Weng Chun Weng Chun Sap Yat Kuen is simmilar to Yik Kam Siu Lim Tau.” - AH
Hi Andreas,
Happy New year!
I understand you might post your claim based on some oral speculation which you might not looking into and verify in details…. as many of us do.
Thus, you don’t have to answer this post.
However, if you are serious about it.
Since you and me are both one of many succesors of different system, we have the responsibility to clarify things for the Martial art public and future generation of Wing Chun Kuen and Weng Chun Kuen. This is Purely technical nothing personal.
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KPM and wcners who is interested.
In this 1983 letter from my sifu,
#1 is his evaluation on my YK SLT kuen kui understanding.
#2 is in his word what he passed to me is proper WCK
#3 is contradict to others believe , my sifu do involve in Qi sinking to Dan dien internal art.
Thus, I am not studying yik kam SLT and kuen kuit over night, I was train in reading kuen kuit since 1970s and be able to get indoor at 1983. Yik kam SLT of Cho gar is an internal art.
Emei 12 zhuang kuit investigation is not an accident, be able to scan out what is CLF what is WCK in the Cho family kuit documents is not an accident , it is a more then 30 years of practice and practice . I was trained the ancient way by my sifu.
As We can see today, by evidence,
many working to discredit me without the concern of destroying Wck ancestors art.
For these people, It is obvious Wck is not important , their personal agenda is the bottom line.
Last edited by Hendrik; 04-07-2014 at 09:31 PM.
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I get this message.
Very stupid enough. His SNT 4 parts. why he show them up today, why not 1 yr, 4 yr 10 yrs ago. He mention Robert kept one copy 12 years ago, but Robert Chu told me in last October he never see the other 3 sections. A liar again.
and I would like to show you the fact
The following was Robert and myself in the 1998 yik kam slt video which I have released the frame photo in this forum today .
And that is 16 years ago, more then 10 years ago.
Also, please not put words in Roberts' mouth. Robert and his students saw all the four part and is in the video showing and compare Ck to the YKSLT part 2.
Robert and me decided to put this photo up together.
Last edited by Hendrik; 04-07-2014 at 09:20 PM.
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Hoping that you understand my English because it is not my mother tongue. I just clarify some misunderstanding only, and no more to elaborate.
The following is the LAST CONVERSATION content with HS, and see how HS is
eager to disclose things to public, and the last part, I just asked him not to disclose any
scwc stuff only, and eventually, he said he destroyed all, and not related to any
SCWC.
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1月18日
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:03
Hendrik Santo
Thanks!
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:09
Wayne Yung
Wallace 跟Richard Sticky手，真是小鼠見大象，玩得幾開心
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:09
Hendrik Santo
Hahaha, Richard is big size
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:12
Wayne Yung
係！不過唔打得佢，易失控，不接受被打，昨晚跟多位玩，留意倒易
起火，
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:13
Hendrik Santo
Agree. Be carefull,
風暴開始了
https://www.facebook.com/sifusergioi...52221364794124
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:14
Wayne Yung
今天回家途中，情緒控制在格鬥中為何重要
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:15
Hendrik Santo
One needs to handle the mind element
Wck has move into this ,
谁在悬崖沏一壶茶
温热前世的牵挂
而我在调整千年的时差
爱恨全喝下
岁月在岩石上敲打
我又留长了头发
耐心等待海岸线的变化
大雨就要下
风狠狠的刮
谁在害怕
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:19
Wayne Yung
今天很tired，刮沙
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:20
Hendrik Santo
Lots of 濕。
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:20
Wayne Yung
後跟Richard，我們可做中文及英文WCK訪問
是，因為睡得少
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:20
Hendrik Santo
Try to sleep more . Otherwise, easy to become 陰陽兩虛。
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:21
Wayne Yung
是
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:21
Hendrik Santo
Yes, Richard is great for the interview!
That is great scwc intro!
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:22
Wayne Yung
他拿了很多我晚上時間
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:22
Hendrik Santo
Still, you need to control your time
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:22
Wayne Yung
RC在就好，插幾針
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:22
Hendrik Santo
Health is important
RC在就好，插幾針. That is not working but only temporary cover up
It will cause serious problem later.
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:24
Wayne Yung
Sergio，似乎拿了你的，當自己介紹給佢的人，又可賺大錢
我知道，所以今晚剛食中藥
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:25
Hendrik Santo
Ok Loh. 祖宗有人拜就好。利益給出力的人。
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:25
Wayne Yung
不喜歡這樣做
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:25
Hendrik Santo
生活習慣比藥物重要
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:26
Wayne Yung
是就好，怕不是而已，我聽得太多這人是甚麼人
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:26
Hendrik Santo
我們各人份演的角度不同。
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:27
Wayne Yung
明白的
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:28
Hendrik Santo
俗話說用藥就有三分毒。Sergio是藥葉問也是藥。世事如此而已。
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:29
Wayne Yung
當然！所以才提你，否則不關我事，怕你的及我們的變成人家的，
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:30
Hendrik Santo
我的角色，目前什麼都不可以要。所以才因為這樣與rc 昨天的方向不
合
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:31
Wayne Yung
我們的其實現在己開始浮現，何必急成這樣
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:31
Hendrik Santo
要以身作致。
不是急是勢之所行。
Sergio 已經製好做下一個 utube 了
都是天時，自然會發生的
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:34
Wayne Yung
其實今晚Richard主動跟我談及Sergio網站內容，佢都知Sergio是甚麼人
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:34
Hendrik Santo
了解。
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:40
Wayne Yung
是否勢之所行，見仁見字，希望本門東西跟這勢而流向這類人，不是
因為他有Fans而隨便流出
你做的我無權理，但希望蛇鶴詠春的不要隨便流出，這也是你當天應
承的
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:43
Hendrik Santo
人不知我是好事，鎗打出頭鳥。
推廣祖宗傳統的有利益才會有人去做。
這是世間定律。
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:48
Hendrik Santo
蛇鹤系是一系。有他的正統傳承。不是我所會，我也不會去学。也不
學以保持我不懂。我所提到的蛇鶴資訊限在已經在新武俠所公開
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:49
Wayne Yung
其實正如你說，易金的你都完成了 ，但現在又．．．
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:52
Hendrik Santo
我對每一個人所公開都是一樣。也告訴大家要學蛇鶴必須拜師入門
Wayne Yung
2014-1-18 23:53
Wayne Yung
Ok! As I said, I don't have any right to comment what you are doing now. Sorry about
that. I have nothing to say any more. Hope I wouldn't regret to have you as a friend.
Nothing more I can say now. Need to go to sleep.
Hendrik Santo
2014-1-18 23:54
Hendrik Santo
到目前為此我用我所證並沒有用蛇鶴之術。
如果你這樣想，那就在此別過。
蛇鹤密門，我消毁，從此不看。也不知道其中武功。
這樣也好，現在保持清白。
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The following email dated 17 Feb, Our relationship still ok, but see point #3 there, how
high he is still working in wck today, cheating me. After taking SCWC stuff, cheating
me and high pofile on promoting his newly SNT today, and how high profile to saying
a lot in the last two years.
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Hendrik.
To MeRobert ChuJack Chang
Feb 17
Wayne,
1. Be able to make Happy is a great thing Robert and I will do.
2. Great that you met Sergio and have first hand understanding on him and the
possibility for further program. My best wishes for you and him. I am sure there are
alots of things you can teaches him on the history and culture of Wck. Also, you guys
sure will come up with good videos for Wck history and SCWC to share with the world.
3. I have made my decision to wash my hand on Wck and become a full time Buddhist
since my mission in Wck is completed. That is what I like to do here on with lots of
good memories in Wck.
Best regards
Hendrik
Sent from my iPad
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Later, you can watch Sergio video on the True Origin, how Sergio in high profile
again and saying they got the 1890 writing document. , HOwever, Hendrik on
18/January night, he mentioned to me his SCWC's document was totally destroyed,
after I show my unwillingness and ask for not releasing any related to SCWC only.
He also changes YKWC kuits, and SCWC kuits, saying a lot on splitting to SCWC 3
set forms, such as losing any kung, concentrating on application, wooden dummy set,
mis-interprete our kuits.....etc. in the past.
How much does he know SCWC and the document he got not any secret notes, but
some common kuits only. My True description paper in New Martai lHero, also based
on this document. How come the full document will be passed to these types of
strangers for baisee only. Their mnd is really childish, and not matured enough. why
Law's family need to preserve for over 160 years, and Today, just let those foolish
guys coming and biesee and take it. Ridiculously.
Also, they always claim they are wck researchers and need to study the wck history
and open to public. However, some lineages they don't like to say too much on
themselves, or even has their own culture to keep in low key. Why these type of fake
buddhists (HS and RC) wearing a robe and cheat others to get some unwilling to
show up information to make their credit to public. What types of these people are.
HS always mentioned let the today and future reseachers to find out the truth. Does it
mean they have the right to dig some information from others who don't like to
disclose to public ? Do they understand what means by "Privacy". No ethics,
nonsense no MoDuk, no ......
As a gatekeeper of the SCWC stuff, of course, I know why HS coming to approach me
3 years ago, after I showed SCWC stuff to prove the existence of SCWC over 160
years in Dec 2011 Kung Full magazine Forum. He spent few years on me for SCWC
stuff, Today, he can change the SCWC kuits wording and meaning and make his
emei like one, those we have followed to practice for over 4 generations in Law's
family since splitting after 1855. Similar cases happened on Cho's family ban chung
Wing Chun. Only he is the exclusive one understand the ancient kuits. He seems to
understand SCWC kuit and his YKWC. Make his own adjustment to fit what he said
emei. He put ykwc one to fit emei, he use scwc stuff to fit emei too, then he can make
his SNT having root from emei.
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He says he heard Sergio say in the video that he has the 1890 document that you promised to destroy.
"Then Sergio vidoes part 1 and part 2 coming out. .... Where Sergio document from if Hendrik destroy it. "
Go ask Sergio what does Sergio means.
I am not Sergio.
And I am not interested in any document or anything which is not belong to me. And I don't want to have anything to do with it.
If you have issue, go ask Sergio . How can I know what Sergio talks about?
I have released enough information, here on, I will not response to any Too creative accusation.
Last edited by Hendrik; 04-07-2014 at 09:43 PM.
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From Sergio True Origin of wck videos, I find mainly from the ebook, but I never work
with Robert Chu and Jim Roselando. Can I question ? Just a simply question.
Sergio should come out to explain. However, HS made another thread in KFO "Why
Robert Chun and Jim Roselando getting credibility on Sergio videos". The qeustion
to me is Why HS answered, not Sergio. Also, under the comments of Sergio part 2
utube, 1000delights make comments there mentioning 1894 doument twice, and
intentionally change the kuit more suit his emei. What means. Then he said is the
'typo', See '0' and '4' keys in the keyboard. He told me he destroyed the SCWC
doucment, but making comments there relating to 1894(1890) document.
From the above my last conversaion with HS, he said to me he totally destroyed
the document. Also from his replied email dated 17Feb, to me point #3, becoming a
full time buddhist. How come I trust this guy again today. How he is high profile in
wck to promote. Actually, it is not my business, but feeling cheated only.
Opening to baisee, get what he expected, then make formal public announcement and
quit. What for.? However, as something related to being cheated, I need to bring
my attention to. Do I need to question ? Whether there is an answer or not, not my
concerned, and I just ask only.
The above is part of the whole picture on HS approaching me 2-3 ago again on
Facebook, after I quit KFO to show the real existence of SCWC. He always said he like to learn SCWC from me, all our conversation on Facebook, not being deleted, and for those interested with my approval can draw up the whole conversations in the last few years from Facebook. Why he spent few years on me to take SCWC stuff. Why RC came to HK approaching me twice. Of course I already know what their intention for.
Honest speacking, I and SCWC are in low key over 160 years, and we just show up 5
years ago to public. This fake buddhist came to collect SCWC stuff, but saying what
he is doing his reasearch, modifying SCWC ancetors stuff openly, and and very high
profile showing to public. However, does he thinks what he done is too far away. Also
something we are relunctantly to disclose AT THIS MOMENT. What we can disclose
already disclosing in New Martial Hero magazine in 2008, papers in 2009 and
eventually the contents in the ebook only.
More, they high profile telling the world, THEY GET THE 1890 FULL WRITINGS in
the video. I really like to see what the full writing is. Or, is the ebook the full writing of
1890 document what they mean to mislead. Read the ebook and you can find out.
Does they know any what caled 'Privacy' ? Can they, as a wck researcher, what ever
they like to intrude the privacy of a wck lineage family. I am really disappointed with
what these types of wck researchers doing. What for ?
Being a writer in New Martial Hero magazines for 5 years, I wrote a lot and share a lot
of SCWC related to public. Also, I share my Kung Fu knowledge too. A paper on
Wuduk and a paper on the traditional discipleship in traditional kung fu culture are two
of them. Only those related to SCWC, I definitely use my real name. On others, other
names being replaced.
Credibility, so what, I never care about. How many of you knowing me, even those
from Hong Kong in the last 5 years. We are in low key over 160, I get used to.
However, something related to SCWC stuff, as a chief in SCWC Mun, loyal to my Mun,
can I question ? Do they have the right ? Do I have the right ?
Interesting things today, someone ask me that he cannot find 1000delights comment
under Sergio Video on Part 2 True wck origin. It is totally disappeared today. For those who like to see again, may ask Utube company to restore it or read the following.
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1000delight1 週前
These are the 1850 and the 1894 kuit describing the "snake" part of SNT in this part 2
of sifu Sergio YouTube. S# is 1894 from the snake crane lineage document Y# is
1850 from the yik kam lineage document S# and Y# are label and number so that in
the future one can identify which kuit by number even though English translation might
varies. S2飛麟九轉表掌通 The spine of the Flying snake turn nine ways to
represent the through of the force flow handling Y6手臂鞭出橫力勁 The hand and
arm whip out the horizontal Jin ( force flow) Y7神寄指爪䄂底旁。 Pay attention to
handling of the finger, craw , and the side under the sleeve . Y8旋迥自然順脈氣
Spiral twisting (turning ) naturally , follow the breathing and the direction of the Qi flow
in the medirians. Note: Y7 and Y8 of the pre 1850 writing above are from the Emei 12
zhuang ancient document by evidence. And due to we can track to the Emei 12
zhuang or the mother art writing exactly , that give us a clear details on the contents
and handling and relationship of SNT to its mother art.
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HS just raised two reference book for wck yesterday. one from White Crane and onw
from emei. The White Crane one I referred to HS last September, and the author
gifted me for studying their arts, not all White Crane secrets are disclosing there. He
mislead the public again. He had asked me to send over 50 pages of that book to him
via 3 separate Emails in last December. Today is in April.
I was asked to prove the existence of the SCWC in Dec 2011 in Kung Fu Forum.
However, do they getting proved ? All shown just some papers and said from whom
from whom. Are they real or fake one?
Also, SCWC descending in Law 's family since splitting, if someone outside and
saying our kuits being wrong,our arts not right and he hold the real arts, but never
showing up to the public. How do you think? Interesting questions all he show up
today, no body questions. To me, all in my mind since the first day, few years ago, we
talk about wck.
1. why only he holding the true kuit ? Does he have any siheingdai holding it ? how
long he stayed with his sifu from 1973-1976 only ? How much he learn from his sifu ?
Why the lineage family doesn't own the right kuits, since descending over 4
generations ? Why the SEA practitoners playing wrongly ? Why ? Why ? Why ? I
never ask because of the RESPECT before.
In last October, I and RC talking about the SNT whole set in the hotel room, and I
hardly remember he just watched the first section only, but none on others. Also, one
of HS viedos naming 'Robert' is also the first section of it. Maybe I was mislead, but
please don't say I haven't had MuDuk.
Finally, being SCWC followers, even open to public, we still keep ourselves in low
key, not contributing too much HK martial arts society and just doing what we do
internally. It is totally HS bringing us out to the world wck community. Why? The
conflicts today, do I come out to argue with you ? I still in low key to express what I
like to express, and telling the truth only. As adviced by some seniors from other families, doing your arts only, and not involving any, otherwise disputes coming out. WCK is your world, not mine. I think we keep ourself in VERY low key again to avoid these type of dishonest guys coming to us again.
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Hendrik Since you claim this is the video evidence. Why not show the whole footage? If you think it isn't fair to disclose your precious art. Just show it to Sifu Yung himself to clear things up.
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Daniel, I am neutral in this whole event, I have nothing to gain. I don't teach, I don't sell anything. But I can confirm the video exists, I have seen the footage myself. It shows Hendrik performing the entire 4 section long set from start to end.
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Then who do you think who is lying now. R or W?
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I can't say since I wasn't there. I don't think either of them would "lie", my feeling is it could have been a misunderstanding somehow.
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By evidence, Disregards of what, those who spread the following false information in differnt forum needs to make a public apology.
Such false accusation is a public insult to both Hendrik , his sifu, Cho family, and Yik kam.
"Sifu Yung has confirmed that HS,'s Siu Nim Tau had not been completed, that HS was trying to take SCWC and recompose his SNT based on his Kuit."
Last edited by Hendrik; 04-07-2014 at 10:59 PM.
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Wcners who is interested in the long set and th kuen kuit comes with it can learn it from Sifu Robert Chu, sifu Sergio, sifu Jim Rosalendo , under their approval, and others sifu who I didn't mention here but directly related to myself.
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If I may suggest. From the statement in the comment, what it's means isn't the completion of SNT "form" itself. Of course, you must have the right understanding and intention to develop the movement that proves whether there's internal inside. What you show, is only picture. Can you show us the form that you do in the past and the recent SNT video that you made so that we can compare whether is it identical?
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It also seems that you also have to learn Emei stuff to enhance your understanding in internal....
Your late Sifu Cho Hung Choi didn't cover the internal syllabus?
Is 平甩功 from Emei 12 post? Did you ever learning any stuff that is internal from Sifu Wayne?
Surely there must be something from him isn't it?
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