Originally Posted by
The Xia
So long as there are good sifus and good students, TCMA will survive.
so long as there are people who want to train for ANY reason, it will survive. that is why taiji for health is so popular.
And MMA guys do train different material then TCMA. TMA have different concepts, training, techniques, and purposes then MMA.
yeah - I saw the post you deleted...of course it's different, but the techniques and principles have similarities, naturally. No, there is no fu jow in mma as you stated, but there is yielding, borrowing, listeining, pushing, and pretty much every other energy you train in cma.
MMA is pretty much a style based on bits of Boxing, Greco-Roman wrestling, Muay Thai, BJJ, and maybe some Judo.
it's more than just "bits" - it's not uncommon for bjj guys to have extensive judo experience. IME, the coaches have decent experience in what they are teaching. If they don't, it shows when their students compete. Using our club as an example, nobody teaching has less than 8 years of experience in their respective style.
And I don't usually see them training those arts completely either (maybe with BJJ as an exception).
because you don't see them on a regular basis. I don't see cma guys sparring full contact much, but I am not around them on a regular basis either anymore.
I don't know about you, but I've never seen MMA guys condition their shins against banana trees like Muai Thai guys do.
they stopped doing that years ago. Thai camps use heavy bags - sometimes called bananna bags. that's really all you need. And do you know WHY it was the bananna tree that is used? because the bark of them is softer than other types. You would not see them kicking oaks or redwoods if they had them available.
The style of MMA was a response to a venue.
this is true. evolution. grapplers had to strike. strikers had to grapple.
2) They are all sport arts.
judo was used and taught in the military. muay thai was trained by soldiers as well. they are sport arts now, but have not always been.
That leads me to conclude that MMA, being a sport, drew from sport arts. And that the baggage of TCMA and TJMA (with the exception of Judo), and other TMAs, lead people to believe that it was all useless. When in reality, that baggage is not a true representation of the arts.
because they were already established and tested sports, they already had training protocols and had already been competition tested.
Now that MMA is here, I think it’s being successfully marketed and going mainstream. And with that, anti-TMA sentiment will continue to grow.
and as it grows, so will the resentment it gets from TMAs.
Last edited by SevenStar; 05-08-2007 at 06:39 PM.
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