Does anybody have any Training Poems/Songs for Hung Gar?

[Humble Disciple]

As I have begun exchanging and interacting with more and more martial artists outside of my style, I have learned that many styles pass down much of their knowledge from generation to generation through training "poems" or "songs."

I study Hung Gar and I was hoping that if anyone out there had any poems for our style they would be willing to share. I also welcome the sharing of "poems" and "songs" from other styles as well.

I look forward to hearing from you all.

[PM]

hello,

try www.hungkyun.com - a specialised Hung Ga Kyun forum

all the best

[specialed]

As I have begun exchanging and interacting with more and more martial artists outside of my style, I have learned that many styles pass down much of their knowledge from generation to generation through training "poems" or "songs."

I study Hung Gar and I was hoping that if anyone out there had any poems for our style they would be willing to share. I also welcome the sharing of "poems" and "songs" from other styles as well.

I look forward to hearing from you all.

here's one:

one form, two form, three form, four. take your money to learn some more. practice standing in one place. in fight be careful, or you get punched in face. family(s) argue over who is best, but never ever put to test. talk about movies, theory, and history. how they learn anything real is big mystery. now i get this off my chest, and that is because choy lay fut is best

[hskwarrior]

Hung Ga, Or Hung Sing,
Choy Lee Fut Will Always Bring
The Pain For Your Brain
Sow Choy's To Your Down
Makin You Feel Insane
Pow Choy Or Sow Choy It Doesn't Really Matter Boy
We Chop Chop Chop
Until All Is Destroyed.

[Laukarbo]

here's one:

one form, two form, three form, four. take your money to learn some more. practice standing in one place. in fight be careful, or you get punched in face. family(s) argue over who is best, but never ever put to test. talk about movies, theory, and history. how they learn anything real is big mystery. now i get this off my chest, and that is because choy lay fut is best

choy li fat gets my respect as any other cma
to say one is the best that is more than out played
its the person not the style get ya arse back 2 school
the only thing needs a test is ur testicles fool
seems to bother u a lot from the words u be posting
lots of blah blah blah better keep ya schit crouched in

[banditshaw]

your paltry ass rhymes aint got nothing on mine
Hung And CLf is how I roll in the str33ts.... combined
take the best from two, double up the stew
you'll be crying like a biotch when I chaap choy and Fu jow you
you'll be calling me sifu and you'll bow down to my feet
paying me 10, 000 dollars for a Muthaphukin' Bai see.

[hskwarrior]

Hung like a horse
but of course of course
man i can say that with pride
moreso with no remorse
just look at the source
of all men HUNG.
it is what we do,
and we leave em all sprung.

[specialed]

choy li fat gets my respect as any other cma
to say one is the best that is more than out played
its the person not the style get ya arse back 2 school
the only thing needs a test is ur testicles fool
seems to bother u a lot from the words u be posting
lots of blah blah blah better keep ya schit crouched in

you think movie is real thing.
i bet you never step in ring.
all your videos are forms and dance
you can't even show a decent stance
pay lots of money to train with logs
talk on forum, bay like dogs
you been fooled by TMA
time to switch to MMA

[Humble Disciple]

While I admire everyone's creativity, I am afraid either I did not make myself sufficiently clear or some people might have missed the point. The point of this thread was to share various wisdoms, observations, and training maxims that have been passed down from previous generations and Sifu's in the form of "poems" or "songs." To Western eyes/minds they often come off as lengthy riddles. The Tai Chi Chuan people will know exactly what I am talking about. There is a beautifully put together book by the title: "Yang Family Secret Transmissions" compiled and translated by Douglas Wile.

I am furthermore discouraged by the fact that the posts I am seeing display so much flippancy, bravado, and in some cases bad taste. We are Hung Gar. We are supposed to righteous, humble, and disciplined. We should have respect for all styles and not quarrel. Instead, the posts here are claiming to beat up anyone or any style that crosses them. In other cases they have denigrated our reputation so far as to make genetalia jokes using the play on words of "Hung" and American slang.

This is a chance for people of all Hung Gar lineages to come together and learn something serious from one another. Ask yourself, is your Kung Fu really so good that you have the time to waste on these distractions? I know mine is not even close.

[specialed]

dear mr. humble disciple. it is highly unlikely that anyone who knows of what you ask for would put it out on a public forum for anyone and everyone to see. mr. pm nicely placed a link to a forum where there are other hunggar players who might discuss such things with you.


oh, and choy lay fut is much better

[Humble Disciple]

Every time I ask a serious question I run into a response along the lines of "that isn't taught/discussed outside of the family" or "you won't find anyone who knows anything about the subject willing to post it on a public forum."

I am a disciple in a very traditional, very private class, so I understand the importance of secret family or "inner chamber" transmissions, but I fail to see how any fact, subject, or discussion of detail and substance is somehow off limits! What exactly are we supposed to talk about? What is the purpose of these forums?

It seems to me that you can give away some golden eggs without losing the golden goose.

[specialed]

one last thing mr. humble: why do you not seek answers from your teacher? do you expect complete strangers to fill holes in your training over the internet? isn't learning kung fu a physical experience that requires a close relationship with your teacher and hours upon hours of hands on instruction? if i was your teacher, i would be insulted right now.


and choy lay fut is better.

[specialed]

Every time I ask a serious question I run into a response along the lines of "that isn't taught/discussed outside of the family" or "you won't find anyone who knows anything about the subject willing to post it on a public forum."

I am a disciple in a very traditional, very private class, so I understand the importance of secret family or "inner chamber" transmissions, but I fail to see how any fact, subject, or discussion of detail and substance is somehow off limits! What exactly are we supposed to talk about? What is the purpose of these forums?

It seems to me that you can give away some golden eggs without losing the golden goose.

go to mcdonalds if you want drive through.

[Humble Disciple]

I value the special relationship I have with my Sifu very deeply. He and I have discussed many of these topics at length, however, I am simply trying to do additional research on my own in order to broaden my horizons and deepen my understanding.

Much of a students journey, while guided by his Sifu, is endured alone. A Sifu can point you to the door but you must walk through. This is just me going out into the world and attempting to get involved. My teacher is fully aware of what I have posted here. I would be ashamed if I ever did anything to hurt my Sifu.

I am sorry you feel the way you do about the matter. I would reserve judgement about concerning another's Sifu/Student relationship for your private thoughts, however, as it is deeply hurtful to someone who takes it seriously.

[specialed]

mr. humble. are you per chance in drama school? if not, it might be something to look into. really, now youy've hurt my feelings regarding my private thoughts.
anyway, its nice you take your kung fu training seriously. what do you intend to do with it? are you going to fight in the ufc? i will be your biggest fan if you do. none of the kung fu people here ever do anything but talk.


oh, and choy lay fut AND wing chun are better. but not as good as bjj