OUCH....lol Nice one
I have to respond only because I can't let you have the final word. The dummy set I was free styling to show hand speed and as far as commenting on my vids or Raouls vids it's only fair if we had something to go on like one of your vids.
All I have to say is that it seems like you have been living in the past,, so what have you done lately http://www.wongpeople.com/tournament_2003.html
http://www.wongpeople.com/tournament_2004.PDF
These are the same people that used to compete in the Nacmaf tornaments.
http://www.wongpeople.com/tournament_2005.doc
http://www.wongpeople.com/tournament_2006.html
We have been part of Wongs top ten list every year, I'm not trying to brag or anything it's just that they list the top ten schools every year. I've done this at most tournaments with just a handfull of students.
Listen we all can look back at our High School years but what have you done lately to promote CMA and your lineage besides getting on ths forum and trashing people that have been consistently working hard at promoting CMA.
Whatever it was you were doing on that dummy, whatever you want to call it, it was not something Chan Tai San taught you.
Dave we all know your name dropper and you have to use Chan Tai Sans name to justify who you are.
That video doesn't say anything about it being Chan Tai Sans, Those are my arms and my legs and are part of my genetic make up.
I don't have to ride on my Sifu's coat tails to justify who I am. I moved like that before I met the old man and I was even faster.
You miss the point of the video I'm not displaying Chan's kung fu but my own physical skill. Let us see how you move today and lets compare and then you can say something.
You see just like I have said before I'm not Chan Tai Sans boy, I'm not even my dads boy. What I am is my own Man not someone who needs to toot their Chan Tai San horn
http://www.wongpeople.com/tournament_2003.html
http://www.wongpeople.com/tournament_2004.PDF
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Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Let's see, your web site is www.greencloud.net where you claim you were adopted as a young boy by Chan tai San, that you are the head of the "Green Cloud Monastery" (which DOES NOT EXIST), and you claim CTS taught you all sorts of things including "Pankration"
My web site www.NYSanDa.com only mentions Sifu in my bio. 95% of my students neither know who CTS is nor would CARE! My name and my school is built upon what we offer and the fighters we produce.
Your entire web site screams about how you are CTS's student, you swing daily from his nutsack... so clearly you will lead people to believe what you show is CTS kung fu WHEN IT IS NOT
For once in your life, be HONEST, I know it's hard for you, but just admit that the stuff on your web site/youtube is
Japanese Jiu Jitsu you learned at silent flute (the ONLY black belt in anything that we can confirm by the way)
Knife and stick fighitng you learned from Kempo black belt Huk Plantas (should I mention you studied with him a WHOLE WEEKEND, yet are somehow qualified to teach it?)
Wing Chun you learned from a former a friend (a former friend who trashed you on this very forum and no longer speaks to you, hmmmmmm)
Did you father disown you? Can't say I'd be surprised
Funny, if you aren't living of CTS, why does your web page have all that info abotu Lama Pai
Oh, yeah, let's also remind everyone that ALL THE LAMA PAI INFO ON YOUR WEB SITE IS PLAGARIZED FROM MY WRITING (ie coped word for word)
You keep bringing up the Wong tournament. I wonder why? Oh, yes, that's right
1. Because being in the "Top 10" is simply a function of how many students you brought
and
2. It is a forms event
Tell us all Gus, the two times your students tried full contact fighting, being the Battle at the Boardwalk and the 2006 USKBA nationals, what exactly happened? Please do put your spin on it, then I can post the video
Last edited by lkfmdc; 12-21-2007 at 08:44 AM.
I agree. Dave Ross is certainly a name dropper. He frequently mentions people he has associations with or has trained with as a reference for a point that he is trying to communicate. He doesn't say "look at me, I'm cool, I studied with so and so" or "I met and spoke to this guy or another" for no reason.
I think all of this is moot at this point. Gus has made his stand as did David, Chris and Myself. Our original intentions (although not initially discussed collectively) were to support Gus when he came to this forum, but at the same time, help him to not tell exaggerated stories about Chan Tai-San (and I'm referring to the one where Gus claimed that CTS ripped out some guys intestines - I know, he doesn't claim he was there, but he claims it happended and there were witnesses), correct other people's terminology (as done with Fu Pow with the techniques Chuyhn Sum Teui) or put out incorrect information about CTS or the styles he taught.
This is all.
Then things went south pretty fast.
Incidently, all these things we tried to address in PM's and then they seem to come out publically after that. No one had luck with PM's.
Nobody hates Gus and he wasn't a target for any reason. After some of the afore mentioned activity, we individually stepped in as those things were direct reflections on us.
Gus retaliated with a myriad of insults and empty challenges. Period. Not a terrible guy, just defensive and argumentative with his classmates. But we do call him on his sh1t when it gets thrown out and will probably continue to do so. hey, what else are friends for? LOL
This is what happened. This is the real story. I dont' want to fight with Gus anymore, or anyone else on here. I do feel the need to speak my mind and will from time to time call people on their B.S. when I see it coming. I Love CMA and don't want it to get anymore convoluded than it already is.
I have spoken out about people that I think are scammers and charletons. I will probably continue to do so in the future.
That is (hopefully) all I have to say on this matter. I think. Maybe.
Last edited by Lama Pai Sifu; 12-21-2007 at 10:59 AM.
Let's see what else have I done in the intervening years? Oh yeah, I helped sponsor the Beijing Wushu Team to the US. Let's see...I taught side by side with Wu Bin to over 1,500 people at various classes and seminars. I promoted wushu in 10 different cities(Tv interviews, media, etc.) while we taught this same 1,500 people. On the traditional side, I have taught lion dance to the University of Michigan. I teach kung fu to them. I teach Kung Fu to the Detroit Chinese Association and before I moved to where I am now, I had a school with 130 students in a very active after school program and am in the process of duplicating that success in 3 major markets near me.
Making Wong's list is not so much about promoting good kung fu as it is about self-promotion, which you seem to be better at than you are at kung fu. Face it based on the video I saw of you, I don't have much respect for your kung fu. It's for sure not CTS as you claim. The dummy form is what I see most other scammers do and that's a series of impressive sounding strikes, which really amount to nothing more than bit ch slaps. What's next...claiming you can strike that dummy 12 times in a second?...Watch you go....AS I said before, your fan with a butterfly is so fake it's more pitiful than funny. I learned 4 fan forms (mantis, CLF and Tai Chi). Never once did I see a butterfly. Again, many "sifu" use this move when they have a shallow knowledge of real kung fu. It impresses people who don't know better. Unfortunately for you, we here...know better.
I stopped watching desperate housewives to tune into KUNG FU FORUM?????
if we ran our bodies as much as we ran our mouths we could be beat jesse owes to teh beer store.........that is if our heads could fit through to the door to and our shoulders didnt give out form holding all that ego
pass the popcorn.............. NEXT!
Last edited by EarthDragon; 12-21-2007 at 09:38 AM.
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no, I think he uses his student's excellent amateur and pro fight records to justify who he is, which is a san da coach; I think it's a pretty linear 1:1 relationship myself...
so, why is it that you then duplicate almost exactly move for move the way CTS used to do the sword / spear bending thing, including that ridiculous, non-sensical flexing of your platisma muscle and doing a bunch of pseudo-bok mei moves right before? now, you might argue that you have "evolved" the skills from how CTS did it, and to a point that's true: sifu never speared himself in the leg or fell down onto the floor at the conclusion of the demo, so in a sense it is technically different...