OK, I figured that was what you meant.
I don't accept that "live hand" is the sole province of WC, HFY or otherwise. Or that wrestlers can't do it and don't do it.
Frankly, I don't see the point of taking something like Contact Control (caps are yours, not mine), which is something fairly common to many MA styles, and treating it as something profound that the "uninitiated" can't grasp.
Same with "antigrappling" and "countergrappling". Just definitions for what a pure striker might do against a grappler, and what a grappler might do. Artificial and pointless distinction for someone who does both and is more concerned with effectiveness than semantics.
One of my frustrations with TCMA is that people latch onto fairly pedestrian concepts and inflate their importance to the point where they feel they should be inscribed on the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus ,and assume because their Sifu told it to them that no one else has heard of it, when it's often close to the bleeding obvious.
Yeah, good call to whoever brought Hendrik onto this thread
and even better, allowing his spat with T to migrate here like cancer through the bloodstream of an afflicted patient.