Conservatives are Prudes

[solo1]

It must be nice to make up facts as you go along.

Nationalizing banks rarely works. Look at Cuba, the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Fascist Italy for examples where it has failed, and failed badly.

The auto industry is stil 1/3 private. We have Ford left. The other 2 companies are, for all intents and purposes, government controlled. Heck, Obama chose the current CEO of GM! If that's not proof the Governemrnt runs GM, I don't know what is.

As for gas prices, you're completely ignorant on that one. As far as it being "wealth redistribution", it can be called that, but it's the Government getting the vast majority money, not the private sector. Take a look one day at what the taxes are on a gallon of gas (Federal, State, and local) and then compare that to the profit margin the oil companies make. The Government makes more profit on gasoline than the oil companies do. Mark my words.

As for bailouts, you can't entirely blame Bush on that one. Look at the bailout money spent on Obama's watch as opposed to Bush's. And keep in mind, Obama is less than 1 year into his term, while Bush did 8 full years! CNN just showed last week that our deficit is at a level not seen since 1945! And that was based on 2009 numbers, so you can't blame Bush for that one either.

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sorry dude mis read your original write. I agree with every point you made.

[BoulderDawg]

Hey Bad your good about making speeches but not so good when it comes to hard questions:

What does Ward Churchill have to do with Megan McCain?


I thought that was a fairly simple question.

[Drake]

We have less tax on our gas than anywhere in the EU or Canada. Possibly the world, but I'd have to check the facts on that one.

And if you are paying $800 a month on health insurance, you are being robbed.

[1bad65]

We have less tax on our gas than anywhere in the EU or Canada. Possibly the world, but I'd have to check the facts on that one.

And if you are paying $800 a month on health insurance, you are being robbed.

True about how our taxes on gas are lower than the Europeans. But I still stand by my assertion that the Government makes more on a gallon of gas than the oil companies profit margin is on that same gallon of gas.

That $800/month figure won't be too far off if we get socialized medicine here in the US. Well, the ones of us who actually work will pay alot more for it. Those who do nothing and let the Government/taxpayers take care of them will not pay anymore than they do with the current system. They will still pay ZERO.

[bustr]

Bustr, can you source that quote in your sig?

I'm guessing you can't. After all, we all see how you liberals love to just make up quotes and claim your political opponents said them.

It was reported by Capitol Hill Blue. Do your own research. Three generations of bushes have been in bed with conservative scum such as hitler and bin laden. Juniors reference to the Constitution as a "god****ed piece of paper" should hardly surprise anyone.

No auto companies were forced to take the LOANS. LOANS which will be paid back by them not taxpayers. Nationalizing the federal reserve would take it out of the hands of multinationals with no loyalty to the US (a trait they share with the GOP). The republiKKKONS have thrown away a ****load of money on their cronies. Some of it on bailouts with no oversight but most on no-bid, cost-plus war spending (AGAIN WITH NO OVERSIGHT).

[Drake]

Uh... Hitler was a liberal.

[1bad65]

It was reported by Capitol Hill Blue. Do your own research. Three generations of bushes have been in bed with conservative scum such as hitler and bin laden. Juniors reference to the Constitution as a "god****ed piece of paper" should hardly surprise anyone.

Bottom line; You can't source it. You know he didn't say it.

It's par for the course for you liberals. Speaking of the Nazis, wasn't it Goebbels who said 'A lie repeated enough becomes truth'? And which side is making up all these lies about things conservatives never said......

[1bad65]

Well, I did do a little research on this supposed quote, and I was correct in my assumption that there is ZERO proof GW Bush said it.

"The Internet has been burning up this past week over a column written by Doug Thompson for Capitol Hill Blue. There hasn't been a single word about this controversial column on any major or cable network- all owned by new world order advocates. Just what did Thompson write that has so many Americans seething? In his December 9, 2005 column, Thompson writes:

"GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

"I don't give a god****," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."

"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a god****ed piece of paper!"

Thompson goes on to say, "I've talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution "a god****ed piece of paper."

Thompson maintains he has three solid sources who were in attendance at this meeting. He doesn't give a specific date of the meeting, just "Last month..." <> At this time it appears none of these individuals Thompson's cites as being there is willing to step forward to either corroborate or deny Bush expressed his utter contempt for the supreme law of the land laced with profanity. Either this is the usual gutless stance from DC or the allegations are simply untrue. Right now, the claims Thompson has made in his column have been taken as the Gospel. If Thompson had given a date, at least that would give serious researchers a solid place to start in tracking down which Republican congress critters were there.

On something this serious, for me, Thompson's word just isn't enough. The only way the American people are going to know for sure is absolute corroboration. Until then, Thompson's column will continue to get circulated around the Net (I've received a thousand forwards) and taken as fact by some and laughed off by most - just more Bush bashing from "the left."

It is common knowledge that meetings in the White House are taped, both audio and video. In order to prove beyond any doubt and put this issue to rest once and for all, I hope that some news outlet will file a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to acquire the audio and/or video tapes of this meeting."

http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd146.htm

[David Jamieson]

Uh... Hitler was a liberal.

uh, no he wasn't.

he was a fascist operating under a pretext of nationalisma and socialism.

socialism is not liberal either.

Classical Liberalism is the keystone to North America.
Believe it.

as for the Bush comment, that is 100% viral, he never said it. The tapes have been reviewed and the original accusation is pure fiction.

don't try to paint fascism as liberalism it isn't and it makes you look dumb for doing so. YOu will find that fascism in all political science classes and in all political science thinkers of any merit falls under right wing thought, which is where you will find all sorts of authoritarian police state models as well.

on teh far left it is the same.

be a centrist is the best way. left is stupid, right is stupid center with a little give either way is what is correct.

[1bad65]

as for the Bush comment, that is 100% viral, he never said it. The tapes have been reviewed and the original accusation is pure fiction.

Me and you are usually on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but I appreciate you putting the truth before politics. Thank you.

[BoulderDawg]

So what is classical liberalism? I've never heard of that.

Sounds like some BS made up by the neos to suggest that way back in the day liberalism use to be cool but today it's not.

By the way I assume you have a link to the "proof" that the tapes were reviewed and there is proof positive Bush did not say that.

[bustr]

Bottom line; You can't source it. You know he didn't say it.

It's par for the course for you liberals. Speaking of the Nazis, wasn't it Goebbels who said 'A lie repeated enough becomes truth'? And which side is making up all these lies about things conservatives never said......

I told you to do your own ****ed research. As far as lies becoming truth I seem to recall this one from YOUR village idiot, "Saddam is seeking to develop weapons of mass destruction". When it comes to lies you republiKKKON fascists are the biggest offenders.

[BoulderDawg]

What's funny is that they claim they have "proof" that he didn't say it.....well......we're waiting for that "proof".

I haven't exactly heard were Bush came out and denied it.

[Drake]

uh, no he wasn't.

he was a fascist operating under a pretext of nationalisma and socialism.

socialism is not liberal either.

Classical Liberalism is the keystone to North America.
Believe it.

as for the Bush comment, that is 100% viral, he never said it. The tapes have been reviewed and the original accusation is pure fiction.

don't try to paint fascism as liberalism it isn't and it makes you look dumb for doing so. YOu will find that fascism in all political science classes and in all political science thinkers of any merit falls under right wing thought, which is where you will find all sorts of authoritarian police state models as well.

on teh far left it is the same.

be a centrist is the best way. left is stupid, right is stupid center with a little give either way is what is correct.

He enacted liberal policies, and they appeared even moreso in light of the typically conservative German politics. I don't know where you got your definition of liberal, but I got mine in college.

[bustr]

It doesn't even matter if bush SAID the constitution was a god****ed piece of paper. Bush was just a dipsh!t doing the bidding of his father Bush sr. The same bush sr who just happened to be in a meeting with shafiq binladen on 9/11. bush sr is of course the son of prescott bush, an officer of the thyssen corporation who funded adolph hitler. So you can see that the bushes have a long history of crapping on liberty. Even if he didn't say it her certainly believed it.