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    Hmm... found some northern longfist white tiger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUF3DyeOosY

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    This thread is funny. the worst thing that ever happened to me while i was locked up was sharing our cell with a bak fu guy. he kept trying imitate bruce lee, and once asked me at a 4 a.m. count if CLF could beat Bak Fu.......so i turned and Fu Jowed his throat holding it there, all of his neck meat in my hand, asking what his bak fu is going to do now!!!! LMAO

    Funnee funnee!!!
    Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
    when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
    Bruh we thought you knew better
    when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    Sanjuro,

    Next time you meet a sifu who you believe to be "delusional" then the best way to know for sure is to touch hands with him. It does not have to be life and death. Even a friendly one could have cleared up any doubts in your mind.

    HW108
    Been there, done that in 4 different continents, what have you done?
    Oh right, never mind.
    Again, good luck to you.
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    Thread re-opened, don't ask me why !
    LOL !
    Sorry about that...
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    A pre-mature modgasam....


    Breathe deep, think of yer Moms....
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    Close it.

    No need to be either letting HW go on any longer, he will pollute the thread with his mouthbox stank.
    Mouth Boxers have not the testicular nor the spinal fortitude to be known.
    Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.

  7. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Been there, done that in 4 different continents,
    Apparently you did not "do" it in Brazil, but that did not stop you mouthboxing about my sifu here.


    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro ronin
    what have you done?
    Unlike you, I have trained authentic traditional kung fu on two continents.

    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro ronin
    Again, good luck to you.
    And again, thank you.:
    Last edited by Hardwork108; 01-20-2010 at 11:57 AM.

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    The fragility of hw108 aside, the clip posted by brad shows what appears to be standard wushu practice.

    perhaps it was given the name white tiger because there is no other name to give it?

    It doesn't really contain any motions that are liken to any tiger system and instead resembles a little bit of tan tui, with a touch of chang chuan, some quicky taiji and a bit of white crane.

    Not much in the way of tiger really. Certainly nothing like what's called Bak Fu Pai and nothing like the white tiger or Olaf Simon up here in Canada which also has a poor reputation like that of the Bak fu pai stuff.

    In my experience, which is not vast, but it is not small either, I have not actually seen what I would consider a genuine and effective chinese martial arts system called white tiger.

    I've been into this for a long time now and have had some great teachers and access to great knowledge and practice. And...nothing.

    My personal conjecture is that there is no such style as White tiger other than the fabricated styles as mentioned above.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Going back to the thread. [any relevant input from Dale Dugas would be welcome as well].


    The Thread got really interesting with B-Rad's following post:

    Quote Originally Posted by B-Rad
    Hmm... found some northern longfist white tiger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUF3DyeOosY
    Hello B-Rad,

    Here I am again posting this message again t in the newly re-opened White Tiger thread.

    ANYWAY, thank you for posting the clip. I am curious to know wether the Long Fist White Tiger in the clip is a Northern Style of its own or wether it is just a form within another style?

    HW108

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    Apparently you did not "do" it in Brazil, but that did not stop you mouthboxing about my sifu here.



    Unlike you, I have trained authentic traditional kung fu on two continents.


    And again, thank you.:
    Blah, blah, blah, dude you talk way to ****ing much !!
    LOL !
    IF you were in Brasil you would have know.
    Just drop it and stop it, it has zero to do with this thread.
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    The issue ( if there is one at this point) is not whether White Tiger is a made up system, all MA systems are made up.
    The issue is the "lineage/history" claims.

    There is no need to make **** up or masquerade something as something else unless you are trying to hide something or deceive someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    The issue ( if there is one at this point) is not whether White Tiger is a made up system, all MA systems are made up.
    The issue is the "lineage/history" claims.

    There is no need to make **** up or masquerade something as something else unless you are trying to hide something or deceive someone.
    A true and valid point (good thing I was sitting down)!

    And I was in Rio/Brasil (for two weeks) during the time you were supposed to have been there!!!!

    I did not see you and sifu did not mention meeting anyone from abroad anywhere else!!!

    So where in Rio did you meet him?????
    Last edited by Hardwork108; 01-20-2010 at 01:47 PM.

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    And I was in Rio/Brasil (for two weeks) during the time you were supposed to have been there!!!!

    I did not see you and sifu did not mention meeting anyone from abroad anywhere else!!!

    So where in Rio did you meet him?????
    I was introduced to him by a friend of one of his "sparatan" students, at the University.
    We chatted for all of 15 min, if that, so NO, I didn't have a chance to challenge him to a death match with chi balls at 20 paces.
    We didn't even discuss WC, we "glossed over" full contact stick work and he rolled his eyes when I mentioned the DBMA and that I was going to Machida's dojo for a visit.
    Of course he was much taller than me ( I am only 5-6) so maybe it was only the sun in his eyes.
    Psalms 144:1
    Praise be my Lord my Rock,
    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    I was introduced to him by a friend of one of his "sparatan" students, at the University.
    We chatted for all of 15 min, if that, so NO, I didn't have a chance to challenge him to a death match with chi balls at 20 paces.
    We didn't even discuss WC, we "glossed over" full contact stick work and he rolled his eyes when I mentioned the DBMA and that I was going to Machida's dojo for a visit.
    Of course he was much taller than me ( I am only 5-6) so maybe it was only the sun in his eyes.
    I wiil check that out with him.

    I am still surprised that you did not discuss WC with him. You could have personally asked him about the ground fighting element in his lineage. I am sure that he would not have minded touching hands with you if you had mentioned that you had trained kung fu. He is also always willing to discuss various techniques,concepts, principles and so on. Why meet someone like that and limit your discussion to stick fighting???

    What is DBMA?

    Anyway, you say that you had a fifteen minute chat with him that did not concern kung fu and then you came back here making derogatory remarks about him. WHY?

    And again, he did not mention meeting anyone from abroad. Must have been some impression that you left on him.

    Last question. Why go to a city like Rio de Janeiro and then go back to wherever it is that you come from? Where is the logic in that?
    Last edited by Hardwork108; 01-20-2010 at 02:05 PM.

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    My two cents worth little...Everyone knows this anyway...

    The history of most Kung Fu styles, pre 1880 or turn of the century abouts, is shady at best. And for some reason all will have to do with five elders, or magical monks, traveling escorts, or bandits, saints, traveling maniac farmers, and well, no need to list on and on. Southern styles for sure play this... Hung Gar - Gee Shim, Bak Mei - Bak Mei, Wing Chun - Ng Mui...Pretty famous styles. Now we have two from the story not used up...Fung Do Duk and Mew Hing. Why not use them also? Maybe that's what Doo did do, maybe not? Maybe all of it is bull****e? Maybe everyone did this? I haven't a time machine. But, I bet if I did and could go back and see all of this masters training and that, it wouldn't be near as impressive as I would like to think it might be. I doubt any of them were flying, or actually cracking boulders under water...

    For example, apparently CLC was a hell of a fighter, so if he said it came from Bak Mei, it came from Bak MEI! Nowadays, a "master" doesn't have that luxury. AND NO I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH CLC OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER.

    My point being, how much of all of kung fu is simply good movement accompanied with a fantastical tale? Why not embellish? We do with everything else, right? hehehe!


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