An Epic of Internet-challenge Stupidity

[1bad65]

I notice the Duck Defenders are coming to the forefront and asking alot of questions. Yet The Duck has refused to answer the questions asked of him.....:rolleyes:

[Badger]

Yea i saw the video. Jerry Springer did get his ass kicked...the whole situation looked shameful..

[Lucas]

Remember, JFS asked for Osiris to stop. He verbally tapped. One or two decent punches and 'The Beast' was finished!

He talked **** for over 15 minutes, then quit in under 2 minutes. Remember that.

i watched the video dude. and if i remember osiris was in no quick hurry to keep pressing the fight.

dont get me wrong, he had the dominant position, but we both know that was basically a mutual decision to stop. Osiris, if he wanted to press it, would have been like "**** you *****" and then proceded to pound his ass.

well thats what i have done in the past anyway when i wanted to beat someones ass who wanted me to stop. you dont stop. you beat ass.

i dont know or like either guy, nor do i have anything against either guy.

at that point in the fight Osiris had the dominant position, and likely if he pressed could have won. but there was no tap due to submission.

the way i see it, it was mutual. unless JFS has some sort of mind power that can force osiris to decide to stop fighting......

[Badger]

One was scared the other was glad he was....

[1bad65]

dont get me wrong, he had the dominant position, but we both know that was basically a mutual decision to stop. Osiris, if he wanted to press it, would have been like "**** you *****" and then proceded to pound his ass.


Osiris knew it was being taped. If you get on top of someone in a fight and they say stop and you don't, it's assault. Considering Os knew it was on tape, I think it was more intellegence than fear as to why he stopped. Get real. Even JFS himself did not have the stupidity to try and spin that he won.

Don't worry, the same people trying to spin JFS' defeat will be the same ones on Oct 1st saying that The Duck did not really punk out. Wait and see...

[Badger]

1Bad65 - What is the meaning of your screen name ?

[OsirisBJJ]

Of course I wanted to end the fight. There's about 15 minutes of discussion on tape as to why. The only reason we fought there in the first place was because he attacked Kat. So when he gave up, I was more than pleased to stop fighting. Had he not given up, I would've kept fighting.

[SifuAbel]

Hey Rudy,

Did a little checking on your boy Justin Gonzalez the "owner" of action fitness. There's no one by that name who works for the IFL. The IFL does it's own promotions.

So your promoter friend seems to be a liar.

You and him, birds of a feather?

No time to answer all the stupidity from the bullshido camp all at once.

Toney baloney, YOU ARE ****ING STUPID.
He doesn't work for the IFL.
Hint: WHERE is the IFL having their event?

[1bad65]

No time to answer all the stupidity from the bullshido camp all at once.

Translation: I will duck the questions just like I will be ducking the fight.


Care to PM Anthony a phone # for this 'promoter' guy? After all, Anthony did give you a fax #. :D



Less than 2 weeks to go Duck!

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Of course I wanted to end the fight. There's about 15 minutes of discussion on tape as to why. The only reason we fought there in the first place was because he attacked Kat. So when he gave up, I was more than pleased to stop fighting. Had he not given up, I would've kept fighting.

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Watch the tape, you jumped him from behind after the incident with "Kat" was over already (as she was 10 feet away at that point). You did it because you are a punk, and thought the tape had stopped rolling.

You just wanted to put the hurt on the old man because of previous tensions from past internet arguments. If I had a time machine, I would be willing to bet you never would have jumped him with his back turned like you did, if the camera was blatantly on you and clearly filming.

The "Save the She Male" cry is just your spin to try and do some damage control on your personal reputation. Maybe to lay some foundation in case of legal issues as well....but certainly not the reality of the situation.

[OsirisBJJ]

Then why didn't I hurt him? Why would I be scared from a good low mount? Thats kinda the best possible place to be in a fight.

As far as Kat's position goes, yes, she was a bit away. I was further away when I decided to fight. So I came running up when he grabbed her, but I had to cover a lot of distance.

I find it pathetic that someone can smack around your female friends and all you do is escort her away. *****.

[1bad65]

You did it because you are a punk....


You wanna see a real punk? Just wait until Oct 1st rolls around. ;)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Then why didn't I hurt him? Why would I be scared from a good low mount? Thats kinda the best possible place to be in a fight.

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You realized the camera was on you....Duhhh!

As far as Kat's position goes, yes, she was a bit away. I was further away when I decided to fight. So I came running up when he grabbed her, but I had to cover a lot of distance.

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As you just admitted, the skirmish was already over Before you engaged...punk.

I find it pathetic that someone can smack around your female friends and all you do is escort her away. *****.

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I find it Pathetic that you would not have gotten between them while it was escalating BEFORE IT GOT PHYSICAL! It's not like you didn't have plenty of warning. You didn't seem to even remotely care until you thought the camera was off...and you could jump him from behind while his back was turned...

If you cared about her, you would have gotten in between Her and Springer the FIRST time they started to argue and get hostile...yet you did nothing.

If you were really protecting her, you ALSO would have gotten between them BEFORE he put his hands on her in the last incident as well.Again, there was *PLENTY* of warning, yet you did nothing...until you had an excuse, and the camera was thought to be off...even then, you waited until it ws over, and his BACK was turned!

Did you really defend her? No, what did "Osiris the BJJ coward punk" actually do? You waited, and waited, and waited, and waited untill the cameras were off, and the camera man was far away, till you thought your cowardly jumping of an old man from behind was not to be documented. That is when, EVEN AFTER IT WAS WELL OVER, you sneak attacked him like the cowardly punk you are.

No one is seeing though your spin doctoring here. You might as well give up trying. You are a worthless low life punk. That is all anyone is going to see you as.

[FungFu2u2]

You wanna see a real punk? Just wait until Oct 1st rolls around. ;)

Hey 1bad, Your screen names comes from the 65 Mustang right? What do you think of the 66 barracuda? I had one years ago. My ex bought it for 50 bucks then we redid the engine to race quarter mile. Never did race it though, sold the cuda for 400 about 7 years later. Stupid mistake on his part.

[Yao Sing]

Piece of crap, sorry. My 66 GTO ate them up on a regular basis.

Only car that beat it was a 69 Camaro with nitrous.

[Anthony_ATT]

No time to answer all the stupidity from the bullshido camp all at once.

Toney baloney, YOU ARE ****ING STUPID.
He doesn't work for the IFL.
Hint: WHERE is the IFL having their event?

You are a total moron.

You said your friend was the promoter who put the IFL at the HARD ROCK.

IFL does it's own Promotions = Your info, wrong again.

[godzillakungfu]

No one is seeing though your spin doctoring here. You might as well give up trying. You are a worthless low life punk. That is all anyone is going to see you as.

Hahahahaha. His kick failed they were face to face. So, why did the dreaded anti-grapple fail?

OB was on his butt got up and JFS still couldn't do anything.

Sorry quit spinning.

Quit using your multiple accounts it is getting silly.

[FungFu2u2]

Piece of crap, sorry. My 66 GTO ate them up on a regular basis.

Only car that beat it was a 69 Camaro with nitrous.

Your more then likely right, I was thinking my ex was stupid for selling it.
It value is worth more the $400.00 now.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Quit using your multiple accounts it is getting silly.

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There is some sort of glitch in the system. My main account cannot access this forum, and Gene can't seem to fix it (He says he's spent hours trying), so we had to create a second account.

My main account works fine on all the other forums though, so I only use this one here.

[boshea]

RD, why are you so adamant about demonizing Osiris? Dude, that situation was a total cluster f*ck. Nothing that happened there turned out well, but I don't blame him for being ****ed at JFS. JFS pretty much gave up his right to a clean fight when he grabbed that girl's neck, IMO.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

RD, why are you so adamant about demonizing Osiris? Dude, that situation was a total cluster f*ck. Nothing that happened there turned out well, but I don't blame him for being ****ed at JFS. JFS pretty much gave up his right to a clean fight when he grabbed that girl's neck, IMO.

Because he's trying to make it out like he was some sort of hero, and it's clear he wasn't...it's a cover to excuse his jumping Springer from behind.

Everyone else was smart enough to just shut up, but this idiot.

I think it's weak, and pathetic.

If Springer was on here trying to make it like he was some sort of shining Knight, I'd be jumping on him too.

everyone involved in that should just go crawl uner a rock in total shame....Osiris is the only one not bright enough to do so.

and again, if he *Really* was trying to do the right thing, he would have been there between them *LONG* BEFORE anything got physical....he didn't show any sign of caring one darn little bit, through out that whole thing...untill the very end, when the camera appeared off, and enough happened to give him plausible deniability to the cops if they got involved.

[godzillakungfu]

Quit using your multiple accounts it is getting silly.

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There is some sort of glitch in the system. My main account cannot access this forum, and Gene can't seem to fix it (He says he's spent hours trying), so we had to create a second account.

My main account works fine on all the other forums though, so I only use this one here.

C'mon it got all serious just giving you a hard time.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Oh, my bad. I thought you were not aware of the technical issues. :p

[godzillakungfu]

I have a lower post count(until now) for a 2 year poster but, I read many many threads.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

My post count goes up, and down. I think the oldest posts drop off the system, and my count drops because of that.

On my main profile, I am over 6000. This one, I am over 1000, and that is just from April. My main profile is from the mid 90's, when this was still KFO

I have been posting a lot more, because I had a falling out with the girl I normally e-mial with all day, so I think this account will be to 6000 pretty quick.

[1bad65]

While I like discussing cars and JFS' pwnage, we need to keep this thread focused on The Duck's upcoming punking out.

Again, feel free to start new threads or PM me with off topic questions.

It may be a coincidence, but alot of people seem to be coming out of the woodwork to discuss off topic stuff as the date draws near. :cool:


I notice The Duck took time out from his hectic training regimen to come on here and post, but he of course ducked the questions asked of him. :rolleyes:

[Yao Sing]

You do realize this thread is not about the Rudy v Anthony fight right?

You hijaked it awhile ago.

Just checking.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

While I like discussing cars and JFS' pwnage, we need to keep this thread focused on The Duck's upcoming punking out.

Again, feel free to start new threads or PM me with off topic questions.

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Um, you may not be aware of this, but this thread is about the JFS,Omar, Annatocity debacle. It's not about your obsession with Rudy. Just because you derailed the original topic almost single handedly does not change the fact that this thread was about the Masonic Temple disaster.

So, when we decide to go back on topic, you need to STFU about it.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

It may be a coincidence, but alot of people seem to be coming out of the woodwork to discuss off topic stuff as the date draws near

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No, we are just board with the topic you derailed this discussion into. I mean, you are really the only one who obsessively cares about this. The rest of us have more than one thing to live for.

[1bad65]

So, when we decide to go back on topic, you need to STFU about it.


Just wait until Oct 1st, I will be quite vocal that day. :D


The thread was originally about JFS' defeat, but it has became a de facto thread about the Duck/Anthony fight long ago.

[OsirisBJJ]

So let me get this straight RD. You really think that as someone has my friend by the neck threatening to kill her, that I'm watching the camera man, concerning myself with the possible police report, measuring the distance between them to discern whether the assault is still continuing and waiting to he turns his back to throw a calculated, well timed and logical flying round kick? Are you ****ing retarded?

The bottom line is that if I misjudged the situation and Springer had indeed cooled down, then instead of attacking the guy that was assaulting my friend, I attacked the guy that had just assaulted my friend. I'm quite ok with that.

[specialed]

So let me get this straight RD. You really think that as someone has my friend by the neck threatening to kill her, that I'm watching the camera man, concerning myself with the possible police report, measuring the distance between them to discern whether the assault is still continuing and waiting to he turns his back to throw a calculated, well timed and logical flying round kick? Are you ****ing retarded?

The bottom line is that if I misjudged the situation and Springer had indeed cooled down, then instead of attacking the guy that was assaulting my friend, I attacked the guy that had just assaulted my friend. I'm quite ok with that.


hey junkie, is there going to be a round 2? there's nothing like a trailer trash brawl on youtube to keep the masses entertained.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

The bottom line is that if I misjudged the situation and Springer had indeed cooled down, then instead of attacking the guy that was assaulting my friend, I attacked the guy that had just assaulted my friend. I'm quite ok with that.
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Bull **** Punk. If this person was *Really* your friend, you would have gotten between them and tried to diffuse it from the start of hostilities, NOT waited and waited and waited, and waited some more for the most opportune moment to jump him from behind like a coward!

Your explanation is totally bogus, and your professed motivations are a complete lie. You had ulterior motivations from the start. It just took you some time to find the most plausibly deniable opportunity. Your behavior clearly shows that it is the case.

The Tape dos not lie.

[OsirisBJJ]

Im thinking not, specialed.

[OsirisBJJ]

[If this person was *Really* your friend...

Don't tell me how I treat my friends.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

The bottom line is that if I misjudged the situation and Springer had indeed cooled down, then instead of attacking the guy that was assaulting my friend, I attacked the guy that had just assaulted my friend. I'm quite ok with that.
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If you were for real, you would have been between them trying to diffuse the situation from the very start....not jumping someone from behind like a punk AFTER the fact, when the cameras were thought to be off, and only when you had some plausible deniablity.

You are not fooling anyone you pathetic honor less coward!

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

[If this person was *Really* your friend...
Don't tell me how I treat my friends.

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I am not doing that, I am calling you on your bull****.

Nice pathetic attempt at a defense though.

[OsirisBJJ]

Whatever dude. You're full of it.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Oooh, You gotta have the last word!!! I'm Impressed!

[1bad65]

Hey RD, didn't Springer always talk about how he trained for the street, not the ring? And how grappling was ineffective on the street and how he would destroy Royce Gracie? Not only did he get OWNED by a 150lb Blue Belt(no offense Os), but all his tough-guy theories were destroyed too.

[1bad65]

The fight proved JFS to be a paper tiger (and a racist ******* who assaults women).

Oct 1st will prove that The Duck is a coward.

Mark my words :D :D :D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Hey RD, didn't Springer always talk about how he trained for the street, not the ring? And how grappling was ineffective on the street and how he would destroy Royce Gracie? Not only did he get OWNED by a 150lb Blue Belt(no offense Os), but all his tough-guy theories were destroyed too.

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He was hardly "Destroyed", but he was taken down by a punk with little skill or ability, so I guess all his tall talk was a lot of nothing.

At least he is smart enough to hide his head in shame.

[Mr Punch]

Oooh, You gotta have the last word!!! I'm Impressed!Whatever dude. You're full of it.

[1bad65]

He was hardly "Destroyed", but he was taken down by a punk with little skill or ability, so I guess all his tall talk was a lot of nothing.

At least he is smart enough to hide his head in shame.


So a guy with 'little skill or ability' forced 'The Beast' to quit? :D Just keep digging.

If he was not defeated, why would he need to hide his head in shame?

JFS was exposed for what he was(and was not:)), Oct 1st it's The Duck's turn. :D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

JFS was exposed for what he was

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Yup, just like everyone else in that whole mess.

[godzillakungfu]

JFS was exposed for what he was

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Yup, just like everyone else in that whole mess.

Nope. Everyone else was exactly what they claimed minus your spin.

[Knifefighter]

Don't tell me how I treat my friends.

Osiris- don't mind RD. He also thinks that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the US government.

The guy is doesn't have a clue about anything, including women.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

No, I don't think the government could pull off 9/11

You are right about my relationship with women though. :(

[boshea]

RD, why are you so adamant about demonizing Osiris? Dude, that situation was a total cluster f*ck. Nothing that happened there turned out well, but I don't blame him for being ****ed at JFS. JFS pretty much gave up his right to a clean fight when he grabbed that girl's neck, IMO.

Because he's trying to make it out like he was some sort of hero, and it's clear he wasn't...it's a cover to excuse his jumping Springer from behind.

Everyone else was smart enough to just shut up, but this idiot.

I think it's weak, and pathetic.

If Springer was on here trying to make it like he was some sort of shining Knight, I'd be jumping on him too.

everyone involved in that should just go crawl uner a rock in total shame....Osiris is the only one not bright enough to do so.

and again, if he *Really* was trying to do the right thing, he would have been there between them *LONG* BEFORE anything got physical....he didn't show any sign of caring one darn little bit, through out that whole thing...untill the very end, when the camera appeared off, and enough happened to give him plausible deniability to the cops if they got involved.

Somehow I missed the post where Osiris claimed to be a "hero" and a "knight."

[1bad65]

Somehow I missed the post where Osiris claimed to be a "hero" and a "knight."


Springer might well be a knight. :cool: A knight of the Ku Klux Klan.

[boshea]

Osiris- don't mind RD. He also thinks that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the US government.

The guy is doesn't have a clue about anything, including women.

Cattle mutilations are up.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Vegetarians are down. :D

[1bad65]

RD will be eating plenty of crow soon, on Oct 1st actually.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Not really...you backed out of the bet remember?

And ultimately, I don't really care if Rudy fights or not. It's not going to change anything.

Once this happens, everyone will go on, and on critiquing the fight. If it doesn't, everyone will go on, and on blaming everyone for it not happening.

Either way, this thread will blow right threw the fight date and not even slow down.

[godzillakungfu]

Once this happens, everyone will go on, and on critiquing the fight. If it doesn't, everyone will go on, and on blaming everyone for it not happening.


No you and Rudy will blame everyone. 95% of the people will see Anthony did everything he could to get this to jump off. All venue, date, time, and waiver changes have been at the whim of Rudy.

Anthony has accepted EVERY SINGLE STIPULATION THROWN AT HIM.


You lost the bet not 1Bad. The initial bet was it would happen on the 29th and it won't.


Then as the days changed the bet morphed just like Rudy you wanted it your way.

[1bad65]

Not really...you backed out of the bet remember?

And ultimately, I don't really care if Rudy fights or not. It's not going to change anything.

I said if Anthony ducks, I'll wear your sig for a month. I 'backed out' because you are delusional and no matter what happens you will say Anthony ducked. You really are a space cadet.

I see you now don't care if The Duck fights. You might want to quit helping him duck out then. If he fights it will change something, he will have finally stepped up for once and he will earn some respect. We all know he won't though.

[1bad65]

You lost the bet not 1Bad. The initial bet was it would happen on the 29th and it won't.


Then as the days changed the bet morphed just like Rudy you wanted it your way.


You are 100% correct. Since he has no honor(like his buddy The Duck), I'm sure he will not wear my sig as he promised to.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

No you and Rudy will blame everyone. 95% of the people will see Anthony did everything he could to get this to jump off. All venue, date, time, and waiver changes have been at the whim of Rudy.
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Now that Anthony actually went to go get the waiver, I have no doubt he will be there to fight.



Anthony has accepted EVERY SINGLE STIPULATION THROWN AT HIM.

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If I remember correctly, his side wanted it in a ring in the first place.



You lost the bet not 1Bad. The initial bet was it would happen on the 29th and it won't.

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There is no bet anymore, 1bad65 backed out like a dozen pages ago.



Then as the days changed the bet morphed just like Rudy you wanted it your way.

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I just wanted it simple. you wanted to be written like a corporate merge contract or some such thing.

[Mr Punch]

Not really...you backed out of the bet remember?

And ultimately, I don't really care if Rudy fights or not. Whatever dude. You're full of it.

You're getting more boring than 1bad. At least he has a point. A stupid childish point maybe, but it's a start.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

You are 100% correct. Since he has no honor(like his buddy The Duck), I'm sure he will not wear my sig as he promised to.

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Um dinglberry, you BACKED OUT of the Bet. There is no bet, so I can't "Lose", so I don't have to wear a sig for you, because YOU backed out.

[godzillakungfu]

Implicit in the rules of the bet is the fact that the match is to take place on September 29th. However, given that Rudy is changing the date without agreement from Anthony, I am going to have to cast my judgement in favor of 1bad65.

One of your impartial judges said this to you RD.

Then you went on a tirade and just like Rudy started changing the bet to fit your whims.

Oops and don't forget 1Bad said he would still post whatever you wanted in his sig if Anthony lost which was part of the original bet.

3 weeks is enough time.
The waiver is Anthony's way of Ducking.
Anthony is way out classed.
Rudy has more skill


Oh, who is supporting Rudy?

See, Boesha, Yao, and a few others have been neutral. No support of either side. You can't claim the same neutrality.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Whatever dude. You're full of it.

You're getting more boring than 1bad. At least he has a point. A stupid childish point maybe, but it's a start.

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Thank You for sharing.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Then you went on a tirade and just like Rudy started changing the bet to fit your whims.


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No, I wanted to keep the bet simple.

Oh, and Anthony accepted the date change anyway, so what's ur point?

[boshea]

See, Boesha, Yao, and a few others have been neutral. No support of either side. You can't claim the same neutrality.

True, although in fairness I wouldn't have expected neutrality from RD, given that he was on the other side of the bet with 1bad65.

[boshea]

Cattle mutilations are up.

Vegetarians are down. :D

I guess I shouldn't have expected you to get that; it was a bit obscure. I was likening you to one of my favorites of Dan Aykroyd's movie characters. No insult intended, but I couldn't resist.

[godzillakungfu]

If I remember correctly, his side wanted it in a ring in the first place.
Nope. It was supposed to be at Rudy's teachers school a simple butt whooping, no ring.


What happened after the fact just fits the current pattern




I just wanted it simple. you wanted to be written like a corporate merge contract or some such thing.
Uhmmm I wasn't in the bet I didn't want crap.

You lost on the 29th and he added a new rule you didn't like.

[OsirisBJJ]

Rudy and Anthony should just sit down and discuss. Hammer out an agreement over some coffee, face to face, and then just show up at the appointed time. They live in the same general area.

[godzillakungfu]

True, although in fairness I wouldn't have expected neutrality from RD, given that he was on the other side of the bet with 1bad65.

I guess you missed a post. Easy to do in this mess of a thread.

Here you go:


No, I am not. So far I see people with opinions that he's going to fight, but other than that, there is nothing to really defend at this point.

We have to wait and see if the fight happens or not. If not, maybe he might need some defending, but till then it's all still up in the air.
He says all the stuff earlier and then suddenly, he isn't defending Rudy. He is trying to sound neutral IMO.

[1bad65]

Rudy and Anthony should just sit down and discuss. Hammer out an agreement over some coffee, face to face, and then just show up at the appointed time. They live in the same general area.


That would require The Duck to grow some balls. He has ZERO intention of fighting Anthony.



He says all the stuff earlier and then suddenly, he isn't defending Rudy. He is trying to sound neutral IMO.


Even he is starting to see what is going to happen on Oct 1st. Or should I say, not going to happen. :D

[jmd161]

Hey RD, didn't Springer always talk about how he trained for the street, not the ring? And how grappling was ineffective on the street and how he would destroy Royce Gracie? Not only did he get OWNED by a 150lb Blue Belt(no offense Os), but all his tough-guy theories were destroyed too.



You know, I really don't understand the badge of honor people get out of bragging about a Bjj blue belt beating someone that doesn't grapple?:confused:

I mean...Isn't that supposed to happen? I would think someone who doesn't grapple beating a Bjj blue belt would be something to brag about. I'm not talking about in this guys JFS case, i'm talking about all over the net. You hear people saying such and such was beaten by a BJJ blue belt, but I would expect a Bjj blue belt to be able to beat the average TMA'er on the ground, since the average TMA'er has no clue to any type of actual fighting.



jeff:)

[sanjuro_ronin]

I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts ( do, do , do ), all gathered in a row ( do, do , do )...

[Anthony_ATT]

Then you went on a tirade and just like Rudy started changing the bet to fit your whims.


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No, I wanted to keep the bet simple.

Oh, and Anthony accepted the date change anyway, so what's ur point?

I accepted the date because I want to fight.

Rudy changed it in the hopes I would back out.

Get it right.

[1bad65]

Jeff,
My point about him being beaten by a Blue Belt was in realtion to his boasting about being able to destroy Royce Gracie. Royce is a Black Belt (at least a 4th degree) and fights at around 185lbs. Considering a Blue Belt weighing 150 lbs embarrassed JFS, it goes to show the sheer stupidity of his statement on being able to destroy Royce.

And don't forget, JFS TAUGHT 'grappling' at a seminar too. ;)

[1bad65]

And Jeff,
Dont' forget the JFS/Os fight was a NO RULES streetfight fight that JFS says 'sportfighters' don't train for. He's one of those guys who always justified TMA's lack of success in the ring/cage by saying that they would beat a 'sportfighter' in the street where there are no rules to 'protect' the BJJ/MMA types. Hell, you even hear him saying just that like 1 minute or so before he assauted Kat.


Oh, one more thing. I bet you are quite relieved you did not fly down to Miami to retrieve the waiver aren't you? :D

[Knifefighter]

You know, I really don't understand the badge of honor people get out of bragging about a Bjj blue belt beating someone that doesn't grapple?:confused:

I think what people find impressive about it is a guy with a year or two training can often beat someone who is significanlty bigger with much longer training. Not too many styles can claim that.

It should be interesting to see how BJJ blue belt Anthony does agaisnt the fighting juggernaut (at least in your mind and his) that is Sifu Abel.

[jo]

And lets not forget the endless accounts of Jacko being a trained "Special Forces Master Killah" who took lives with only a knife in the jungles of Panama! :rolleyes:

- jo

[Knifefighter]

And lets not forget the endless accounts of Jacko being a trained "Special Forces Master Killah" who took lives with only a knife in the jungles of Panama! :rolleyes:

An slamming his fist through and shattering the huge bouncer's collarbone.

The fact is, that like most TMA guys who sit around thinking how deadly their techniques are and talking about the uselessness of "sport fighing" on the street, he was a paper tiger.

It's always amusing to hear the stories of all the guys these guys have taken out (of course the opponents are always huge, multiple or armed), but when you actaully see them go up against someone with a few skills, they completely fold. Of course that leads to one of two conclusions... either they are lying about their exploits or they have been coming up against some incredibly clueless people.

[godzillakungfu]

Did we ever get a good enough explanation for this?


This is a PM sent by The Duck to Anthony:


"Justin will be in the Bahamas on that day. It will have to be on Mon the 1st at 7:00pm. That is the next available day."
He knew Anthony worked and still changed it to the 28th but, suddenly the gym owner is going to be out of town?.

Suddenly, after all the posturing, the "friend" mysteriously goes to the Bahamas?
Three weeks out and no one knew this?
He is going to the Bahamas for 2 days?

I'm just asking. It is strange that 3 weeks is enough time to reschedule a day, according to RD and Rudy, when the ball was in Anthony's court.

Well, 3 weeks is enough time to know whether you are going to be out of town or not.

[1bad65]

Speaking of that 2nd date change, it's been pointed out that The Duck has said his inability to get in touch with 'Justin' is why the waiver has not been faxed or e-mailed. Yet The Duck got in touch with 'Justin' WITHIN ONE HOUR of Anthony accepting the 28th because The Duck said it was 'Justin' who said the 28th was no good and it had to be Oct 1st. :rolleyes:


Time marches on and Oct 1st is rapidly approaching!

[godzillakungfu]

Speaking of that 2nd date change, it's been pointed out that The Duck has said his inability to get in touch with 'Justin' is why the waiver has not been faxed or e-mailed. Yet The Duck got in touch with 'Justin' WITHIN ONE HOUR of Anthony accepting the 28th because The Duck said it was 'Justin' who said the 28th was no good and it had to be Oct 1st. :rolleyes:


Time marches on and Oct 1st is rapidly approaching!

Yes, I was just reading that weird exchange and the end of the bet. It is quite funny.

In the space of 14 hours the date moved 3 times. It was scheduled for the 29th Rudy then moved it to Friday the 28th. Whole bunch of trash is talked, plus bragging by Rudy's entourage, for about 13 or so hours then Anthony accepts.

13 hours like that is a long time.

Less then an hour later the promoter has a trip to the Bahamas and the fight is moved to the 1st of October.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Come a relax in the warm tropical waters of Bahamas....

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

If I lived in the Miami area, I'd be in the Bahamas every weekend!

[sanjuro_ronin]

Barbados too, all those nice islands are quite inviting, even more so if you scuba.
Though the Caymans are top notch for that.

[godzillakungfu]

Of course who wouldn't?

I'm not holding Justin accountable. It sounds like Rudy is making plans for this to fail IMO, by not clearing anything through the guy.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Perhaps he just got a job with the Bahamas tourist board and is plugging them, every though of that eh ??
WELL HAVE YOU ?!?!?!!?

That said, is there anything better than swaying in a hammock on the beach with Inga the blonde, full busted swedish exchange student with no inhibitions ?

Me thinks not !!

:D

[godzillakungfu]

I just find this whole situation kind of funny. Anyone that challenges Rudy must understand that September means October.

Don't believe me? Go read the first few pages of the ST fiasco.

Oh and I concede to sanjuro's point.

[1bad65]

Of course who wouldn't?

I'm not holding Justin accountable. It sounds like Rudy is making plans for this to fail IMO, by not clearing anything through the guy.


I'm sure 'Justin' does not exist. Anthony can't find ANYTHING on him. If he is promoting an IFL event, there would be SOMETHING on the 'net about him.

It's actually a very advanced ducking technique. He made up 'Justin' who just happens to be the problem with BOTH the venue and the waiver. :rolleyes:

And notice how The Duck will not address setting up both a backup venue and waiver. :rolleyes:

[sanjuro_ronin]

This charming lady believes that the beach is where its at:

[godzillakungfu]

This charming lady believes that the beach is where its at:

That's enough to get anyone in trouble.

[sanjuro_ronin]

That's enough to get anyone in trouble.

One man's trouble is another man's chi building exercise.

[1bad65]

This was posted on BS:

"No real fighter could stand this amount of trash talking and still have pride in their ability. Rudy's a joke. All that TMA talk of honour obviously means sweet **** all to the monkey man."

[sanjuro_ronin]

This was posted on BS:

"No real fighter could stand this amount of trash talking and still have pride in their ability. Rudy's a joke. All that TMA talk of honour obviously means sweet **** all to the monkey man."

Dude, do you see the hype and trash talking the goes on in pro sports ???

trash talk and hype is the american way !

[sanjuro_ronin]

As American as apple pie, speaking of pie:

[1bad65]

trash talk and hype is the american way !


trash talk and hype and then punking out is The Duck's way!

[Phrost]

All I have to contribute at this point is a question to Royal Dragon:

Were you or any of your family members ever assaulted by the Quote function?

Because you sure seem to show a deep-seated aversion to using it.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

All I have to contribute at this point is a question to Royal Dragon:

Were you or any of your family members ever assaulted by the Quote function?

Because you sure seem to show a deep-seated aversion to using it.

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When I was young, the interweb did not have these newfangled "Quote" functions you modern kids rely on so much.

I think they are silly. I have never needed them before, and I never will need them. The old school way is just fine, thankyou.

[lkfmdc]

All I have to contribute at this point is a question to Royal Dragon:

Were you or any of your family members ever assaulted by the Quote function?

Because you sure seem to show a deep-seated aversion to using it.

LMFAO (plus 10 characters)

[1bad65]

While Royal Dragon has a deep-seated aversion to using the quote function, his buddy The Duck has a deep-seated aversion to showing up for his e-challenges.

[boshea]

All I have to contribute at this point is a question to Royal Dragon:

Were you or any of your family members ever assaulted by the Quote function?

Because you sure seem to show a deep-seated aversion to using it.

Oh no, please let us not start this topic!

[Phrost]

When I was young, the interweb did not have these newfangled "Quote" functions you modern kids rely on so much.

I think they are silly. I have never needed them before, and I never will need them. The old school way is just fine, thankyou.

I assume you'd probably be a respectful, courteous individual were we ever to meet in person.

Do you realize that by posting in this manner, which is very difficult to read, you're essentially doing the same as trying to participate in a group, face to face conversation, while giving everyone you're talking to the middle finger?

The quote function isn't there to annoy you or offend your sensibilities. It's there to display your replies in a format that's easier for other people to read. If you don't have respect for whomever you're addressing, that's perfectly fine with me. But I think it's a bit silly to be a luddite when it comes to internet discussion forum ettiqute.

Oh, and to keep this on topic I guess I should challenge you to a death match or something.

[1bad65]

Oh, and to keep this on topic I guess I should challenge you to a death match and not show up.

Fixed that for ya.

[Anthony_ATT]

Hey Rudy...

Why are you such a big mouth ***** ass coward?

Can you say one thing and keep to it? At all?


Thats where JFS went wrong. Instead of venting his frustrations, JFS let them spring out instead of just letting the cameras roll and show that she/male for the coward she/he was.

As for Anthony, he is a guy. If I can't get the ring that I'm planning and it end up elsewhere, the only words you'll hear from me are, "You here to fight?" If he answers yes on camera, then its on ready or not.

[unkokusai]

When I was young, the interweb did not have these newfangled "Quote" functions you modern kids rely on so much.

I think they are silly. I have never needed them before, and I never will need them. The old fool way is just fine, thankyou.


I know you can use them, I've seen you do so over on dragonslist.

[Anthony_ATT]

How do you like my new signature?

It was taken from a JFS thread.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I know you can use them, I've seen you do so over on dragonslist.

Reply]
Only because I was forced to...notice how I rarely post there?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

How do you like my new signature?

It was taken from a JFS thread.

Reply]
Hee, hee, hee. I am considered one of the key people in starting a nation wide movement against OYD. I am credited with almost single handedly getting dozens of thier schools closed down nation wide!

They even sent a couple of thier goons to my Tai Chi class to "Beat me up" LOL!!

Ahhh, the good old days!! :D

[1bad65]

They even sent a couple of thier goons to my Tai Chi class to "Beat me up" LOL!!


Tell us more, I've never heard that before. :rolleyes:

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Really? That was a pretty famous incident. You would be like the ONLY guy that never heard that one!

They tried to get physical, and I slammed one on the hard wood floor really hard and knocked the wind out of him. His friend got really scared, and dragged him out into the hall when I ordered him to. The guy was white as a ghost!! LOL!!

When I checked the hall, they were gone. I filed a police report on the incident after class.

The Moo (As I affectionately call them) had been publicly posting death threats to me online on the old TMAN forum, and in e-mails to me for weeks prior to the incident. All of that stopped COLD the next day!

Later the Moo admitted to sending thier goons, but tried to downplay how badly they had been embarrassed.

The funny thing, I was teaching on an injured back, and I had no business really being on my feet and teaching, let alone fighting...which just goes to show how hideously BAD OYD's system is.

[1bad65]

Sounds like you TMA guys are pretty tough. I wonder how The Duck will do on Oct 1st. :D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

No, not really. I was practically a cripple at the time. It's more like Oom Yung Doe sux THAT bad!

[1bad65]

These posts are really starting look like they were really on target, and they were posted almost two months ago!



You are full of ****, you have zero intention of fighting and virtually everyone knows it. Why carry on with this charade? Its not too late (though almost) to start back down the road to being a real human. At this rate you're eventually going to find yourself flat on your back in a Masonic Lodge parking lot kicking your legs about helplessly and choking on a cigarrette as someone pounds the crap out of you while you beg for mercy.

He still doesn't get the point, nor does he realize the no-win situation he has painted himself into.

[unkokusai]

I know you can use them, I've seen you do so over on dragonslist.

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Only because I was forced to...





In other words you can use the quote function and do use it when you have to, but you want to go out of your way to be an a-hole to everyone reading your posts here. Like a child, you won't do what you know you should unless someone tells you to and watches to make sure you actually do as you are told.

[unkokusai]

These posts are really starting look like they were really on target, and they were posted almost two months ago!

Rudy knows it too.

[1bad65]

Rudy knows it too.


The Duck knew it 2 months ago!

[Mr Punch]

In other words you can use the quote function and do use it when you have to, but you want to go out of your way to be an a-hole to everyone reading your posts here. Like a child, you won't do what you know you should unless someone tells you to and watches to make sure you actually do as you are told.

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LOL, wtf is everybody's problem with this?

1) Does it really make it that hard to read?
2) Do you really want to read his inane drivel?
3) Does it really irk you so much that he's wasting his time with a slower method of answering so hat he can't write even more inane drivel that you feel the need to post tirades about it insulting him?
4) Can this thread get any more ****ing stupid? I don't believe the state of you all - wtf was the point of evolving? Is this the best use you have for a computer? :rolleyes:

:D

[jmd161]

Jeff,
My point about him being beaten by a Blue Belt was in realtion to his boasting about being able to destroy Royce Gracie. Royce is a Black Belt (at least a 4th degree) and fights at around 185lbs. Considering a Blue Belt weighing 150 lbs embarrassed JFS, it goes to show the sheer stupidity of his statement on being able to destroy Royce.

And don't forget, JFS TAUGHT 'grappling' at a seminar too.



And Jeff,
Dont' forget the JFS/Os fight was a NO RULES streetfight fight that JFS says 'sportfighters' don't train for. He's one of those guys who always justified TMA's lack of success in the ring/cage by saying that they would beat a 'sportfighter' in the street where there are no rules to 'protect' the BJJ/MMA types. Hell, you even hear him saying just that like 1 minute or so before he assauted Kat.


Oh, one more thing. I bet you are quite relieved you did not fly down to Miami to retrieve the waiver aren't you? ;)


I was not refering to the JFS incident, I was just speaking in general and quoted that particular post.:D



I think what people find impressive about it is a guy with a year or two training can often beat someone who is significanlty bigger with much longer training. Not too many styles can claim that.


I agree not too many styles can claim that, but again, isn't that supposed to be the outcome? I would not expect to see a BJJ blue belt beat a striker in a striking event, so why should a striker out perform a grappler on the ground, when most don't even attempt to address grappling range at all? Then take into account that, everyone knows most TMA schools really don't do live training, and I still don't understand why the outcome would be expected any other way...



It should be interesting to see how BJJ blue belt Anthony does agaisnt the fighting juggernaut (at least in your mind and his) that is Sifu Abel.

Well, the type of fighting Rudy and myself did, was not the MMA type fighting with grappling involved, It was more full contact striking. I still would expect Rudy to do very well, I wouldn't expect him to out grapple a grappler, but I don't know what type of grappling experience he has either...

I myself, have faired well against every grappler i've rolled with, with only basic high school wrestling experience. I say "basic" because I never took wrestling serious, and some things came too easy to me, so I never really applied myself. I've been told by purple and BB BJJ people i've rolled with, that I have a very good base. I contribute my experience to my TCMA, not my wrestling.


jeff:)

[Anthony_ATT]

I myself, have faired well against every grappler i've rolled with, with only basic high school wrestling experience. I say "basic" because I never took wrestling serious, and some things came too easy to me, so I never really applied myself. I've been told by purple and BB BJJ people i've rolled with, that I have a very good base. I contribute my experience to my TCMA, not my wrestling.


jeff:)

Good base because of TCMA? Dude, don't you weigh 350lbs?

[sanjuro_ronin]

Has anyone thought of ring girls for this event ?
I mean, worse case scenario at least we get a video of some nice gluetus maximus.

Speaking of which:

[Anthony_ATT]

Has anyone thought of ring girls for this event ?
I mean, worse case scenario at least we get a video of some nice gluetus maximus.

Speaking of which:

Dude, we dont' even know 100% the place is gonna be open.

All we have is Rudy saying it will be.

The last time I trusted Rudy telling it was open, it was... Closed.

[sanjuro_ronin]

All the more reason to bring some ring girls :D

[1bad65]

Counting today, only 11 days to go!

The Duck has been VERY quiet.....

[Knifefighter]

LOL, wtf is everybody's problem with this?
1) Does it really make it that hard to read?
2) Do you really want to read his inane drivel?
3) Does it really irk you so much that he's wasting his time with a slower method of answering so hat he can't write even more inane drivel that you feel the need to post tirades about it insulting him?
4) Can this thread get any more ****ing stupid? I don't believe the state of you all - wtf was the point of evolving? Is this the best use you have for a computer?

Reply]

I think he's starting a trend.

[Knifefighter]

Well, the type of fighting Rudy and myself did, was not the MMA type fighting with grappling involved, It was more full contact striking. I still would expect Rudy to do very well, I wouldn't expect him to out grapple a grappler, but I don't know what type of grappling experience he has either...

Reply]

Come on Jeff... you have told me on various occasions that Rudy completely destroys you at will. According to him, you are a huge, strong guy.

If he cannot hold his own against a BJJ blue belt, what does that say about your training?

[lkfmdc]

Reply]



please, stop the insanity.......

[sanjuro_ronin]

please, stop the insanity.......

Reply]

What insanity ??

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

please, stop the insanity.......

Reply]
Agreed, you are supposed to put the original quote in italics, and/ or bold, or change the color.

[lkfmdc]

stop that!

now, at least we have more material to extend this thread, I mean, still no Shaolin Do, but Um Yong Do was already mentioned, and we have the quote controvery, still a long way to go to rival the 500 page Shaolin Do thread

[1bad65]

If he cannot hold his own against a BJJ blue belt, what does that say about your training?


Too bad we will never find out.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

stop that!

Reply]
You know, at first I didn't even notice you guys were not using the quote function either. It was only after reading it a second time and I saw my trade mark "Reply]" that I looked and saw.

I suppose I should sleep at nite more!! :D

[sanjuro_ronin]

now, at least we have more material to extend this thread, I mean, still no Shaolin Do, but Um Yong Do was already mentioned, and we have the quote controvery, still a long way to go to rival the 500 page Shaolin Do thread

Reply]

Hey, at least this thread has some babes in it now, I don't think the shaolin-do one does.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Reply]

Hey, at least this thread has some babes in it now, I don't think the shaolin-do one does.

Reply]
You are not supposed to put a gap between the "Reply]" and the response to the text above. The gap is between the italics text, and the Reply]. If you guys are going to make fun of me, DO IT RIGHT!!! :p

[sanjuro_ronin]

Hey, at least this thread has some babes in it now, I don't think the shaolin-do one does.

Reply]
You are not supposed to put a gap between the "Reply]" and the response to the text above. The gap is between the italics text, and the Reply]. If you guys are going to make fun of me, DO IT RIGHT!!! :p


Reply]

What do you mean make fun?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Reply]

What do you mean make fun?

Reply]
I figured you guys are picking on me....but hey it could be that you have just finally discovered the superiority of my methods!! :D

[sanjuro_ronin]

Reply]

What do you mean make fun?

Reply]
I figured you guys are picking on me....but hey it could be that you have just finally discovered the superiority of my methods!!

Reply]

I think you are getting paranoid in your old age, watch out for those darn pixies !

[Anthony_ATT]

Reply]

What do you mean make fun?

Reply]
I figured you guys are picking on me....but hey it could be that you have just finally discovered the superiority of my methods!!

Reply]

I think you are getting paranoid in your old age, watch out for those darn pixies !

Reply]

This is how boards used to be back when they were flat, and not threaded.

A big clusterf*ck.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

That is why I change colors, and use bold and italics.

[unkokusai]

'Cause you're an a-hole, or because you are stupid?

[lkfmdc]

'Cause you're an a-hole, or because you are stupid?

I assume this was directed at RD, in which case, I vote a little of both

[1bad65]

'Cause you're an a-hole, or because you are stupid?


He's also an idiot. He's one of those backing The Duck.

[jmd161]

Good base because of TCMA? Dude, don't you weigh 350lbs?


And hasn't size been proven to mean absoultely squat in grappling? So, you're saying just because my size, I should be able to roll against advanced BJJ'ers and do well?:confused:

I contribute my movement and balance to my TCMA, my understanding of body mechanics, and such. I also contribute much of my skill to live training, which was done long before It was called so.




Well, the type of fighting Rudy and myself did, was not the MMA type fighting with grappling involved, It was more full contact striking. I still would expect Rudy to do very well, I wouldn't expect him to out grapple a grappler, but I don't know what type of grappling experience he has either...

Reply]

Come on Jeff... you have told me on various occasions that Rudy completely destroys you at will. According to him, you are a huge, strong guy.


You're comparing apples to oranges and, i've gained a lot of valuble experience since then.

The logic you're using is like saying you expect Royce Gracie to beat a striker at striking because he regulary destroy's someone on the ground?:confused:



If he cannot hold his own against a BJJ blue belt, what does that say about your training?

Our striking matches have no comparison to the match he's going to have with Anthony. Our matches were not NHB type matches that involved take downs or submissions, so it has no impact on me or my training. Also, these matches were yrs ago, we've both gained experience sine then. I've become a much more experienced and well rounded fighter with a better skill set than I had then. I've always had size and speed, but I lacked experience and body mechanics amongst other things.

Plus, I put value in someone's skill set, not the rank or belt they carry. I've seen blue belts that should be ashamed to even carry one much less wear one. I've seen BB's tapped by much lower ranks, so a belt doesn't indicate one's experience and skill. Not every blue belt is on the same level across the board, and the same goes for the advanced ranks as well.


jeff:)

[SifuAbel]

So, toney boy, did you get the fax that was sent to you yesterday?

[1bad65]

So, toney boy, did you get the fax that was sent to you yesterday?


Oh boy! Even if you actually got the waiver done, what's the story on the venue Duck?

[Anthony_ATT]

So, toney boy, did you get the fax that was sent to you yesterday?

How can I get a fax from the Office Max near American Top Team if you don't tell me?

Now that I know, I'll stop by before class to pick it up. Please provide the
From: and To: as well as how many pages were sent.

[SifuAbel]

Before anyone of importance asks,

It's still Monday, Oct 1st 7:00pm at the above mentioned address.

[1bad65]

Do you guarantee the gym will be open Duck?

[SifuAbel]

How can I get a fax from the Office Max near American Top Team if you don't tell me?

Now that I know, I'll stop by before class to pick it up. Please provide the
From: and To: as well as how many pages were sent.


OFFICE MAX?!?!?!?! You provided a ****ing office max number?!?!?!

bwaha bwahaha bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anthony_ATT]

OFFICE MAX?!?!?!?! You provided a ****ing office max number?!?!?!

bwaha bwahaha bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want you having my office or home fax.

What's funny is you not wanting to meet face to face because you are afraid for your life.

[1bad65]

Duck, he did say it WAS NOT his personal fax#.

Do you guarantee the gym will be open?

[Anthony_ATT]

You still haven't provided

From:

To:

Number of pages.

[boshea]

> unkokusai wrote:
> >
> > In other words you can use the quote function and do use it
> > when you have to, but you want to go out of your way to be
> > an a-hole to everyone reading your posts here. Like a child,
> > you won't do what you know you should unless someone tells
> > you to and watches to make sure you actually do as you are
> > told.
> >
>
> Mr Punch wrote:
> Reply]
> LOL, wtf is everybody's problem with this?
>
> 1) Does it really make it that hard to read?
> 2) Do you really want to read his inane drivel?
> 3) Does it really irk you so much that he's wasting his
> time with a slower method of answering so hat he can't
> write even more inane drivel that you feel the need to
> post tirades about it insulting him?
> 4) Can this thread get any more ****ing stupid? I don't
> believe the state of you all - wtf was the point of
> evolving? Is this the best use you have for a computer?
> :rolleyes:
>
> :D
>

Dude, you forgot to use italics and text color to hilight which part of the quote is yours and which part is being quoted.


FYI

Regards,
-b

[Anthony_ATT]

Duck, he did say it WAS NOT his personal fax#.

Do you guarantee the gym will be open?

****ing in the wind with Rudy. He only remembers what is beneficial to him.

[SifuAbel]

I don't want you having my office or home fax.

What's funny is you not wanting to meet face to face because you are afraid for your life.


Of course not. You think since you very easily post other people's info without permission that your info will be treated exactly the same. Sorry, *******, I'm not you.

Actually I'm afraid for yours. Afraid you'll do something stupid. Afraid that you'll lose it and you pull it out while one of the boys I'd have with me puts you down. Don't mess with me in that way.

Our first and last meeting will be in the ring.

The place will be open. Many people are coming out to see this fight.

[1bad65]

A few days ago it looked the waiver and/or the venue was gonna be the excuse.

Even if he gets the waiver done(which we have yet to find out), he still has the venue excuse along any other last-second happenings; ie an injury, sudden family issue, alien abduction, etc. he can use in a pinch.

I still say there is no way will he fight Anthony.

[Anthony_ATT]

Of course not. You think since you very easily post other people's info without permission that your will be treated exactly the same. Sorry, *******, I'm not you.

Dude,

I have never posted any of your personal info. NO idea why that was brought up, has nothing to do with the fax.

What is the

From:

To:

Number of pages:

[1bad65]

From 9-13-07:


Yeah, like I'd give my personal fax number out on a message board.

My bad Rudy, Address the Fax to Anthony from Bullshido.



Don't play stupid Duck. You knew it was not a personal fax #.

[Anthony_ATT]

I have a feeling the reason why Rudy isn't answering
From:
To:
Pages sent

is because he didn't send it.

[SifuAbel]

Dude,

I have never posted any of your personal info. NO idea why that was brought up, has nothing to do with the fax.

What is the

From:

To:

Number of pages:

What, you didn't just post all the info i gave you about Justin etc etc?

Go to ****ing office max already. Its probably under anthony from bullshido. I didn't send it , he did.

What a friggin JOKE!!!! I can't believe you. In all your yellow bellied cowardice you could have at least mentioned that the number was from office max.

[1bad65]

Since The Duck says he sent a copy, that means he is saying he has a copy.


Post it on here Duck. :D

[Anthony_ATT]

What, you didn't just post all the info i gave you about Justin etc etc?

Go to ****ing office max already. Its probably under anthony from bullshido. I didn't send it , he did.

Justin was personal info now?

Or his lack of not promoting the IFL?

[1bad65]

So you finally got ahold of him then? Did he guarantee the gym will be open? ;)

[1bad65]

Notice The Duck did not answer.

It's beyond obvious what The Duck is doing. Notice how EVERYTHING is 'Justins' responsibility. Now when the gym is closed or the waiver is not sent The Duck will blame it on 'Justin'. And there will be a valid reason too; a plane crash, he was detained at cusoms, he decided to vacation an extra week(even though the IFL show he is supposedly promoting is this weekend), a family emergency, etc. :rolleyes:

[Anthony_ATT]

Go down to the school and pick up the waiver, Rudy says. School is closed.

The fax got sent yesterday, Rudy says. They say no it hasn't.

Such is the cluster**** when Rudy is in charge of putting together a fight.

[Anthony_ATT]

Just for edification.

NO FAX HAS BEEN RECEIVED.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I know a girl named Justine...

[Lucas]

I know a girl named Justine...

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[1bad65]

Just for edification.

NO FAX HAS BEEN RECEIVED.


Just watch. I can see it now. 'It's all Justins fault. I really want to fight'. What a chicken-****.

[1bad65]

Have 'Justin' fax it to you Duck. Then you get it to Anthony. Go to a Kinko's if you don't have access to a fax machine. This is your responsibility, if it falls through it's cause you ducked, plain and simple. Quit playing games, you are trying to duck and still save face. And everyone with any common sense can see it.

Remember, I've been telling you for MONTHS to get you stuff done and not do it last minute. You are ducking just as I thought you would.

[godzillakungfu]

Actually I'm afraid for yours. Afraid you'll do something stupid. Afraid that you'll lose it and you pull it out while one of the boys I'd have with me puts you down. Don't mess with me in that way.


Thus it begins. The implied escalation. Here is the real out.

It is actually quite simple to remedy

When the gym is open have Justin, or a delegate assigned to the phone, standby at a specific time.

The time should have at least a 30 minute window and then Anthony can verify people are at the gym. That way Anthony can have the waiver at the least read over the phone.

[unkokusai]

Go to ****ing office max already. Its probably under anthony from bullshido. I didn't send it , he did..


Oh man, how utterly shameless can you get? Do you really think there is anyone who doesn't see through this transparent nonsense?

Just say you don't intend to fight and be done with it! Do you really think you'll save face this way? You are just making it worse and worse.

[Anthony_ATT]

Thus it begins. The implied escalation. Here is the real out.

It is actually quite simple to remedy

When the gym is open have Justin, or a delegate assigned to the phone, standby at a specific time.

The time should have at least a 30 minute window and then Anthony can verify people are at the gym. That way Anthony can have the waiver at the least read over the phone.

Of course it is.

Rudy thinks I'm bringing thugs with me from ATT.

I'll be bringing LEO's and Federal Officer's in my crew.

[Anthony_ATT]

I find it hilarious, that the "Promoter" for the IFL doesn't have an electronic copy of a waiver for "his" school.

Not much longer to find out myself is this happens or not.

I'm expecting showing up to the school and it's empty. Again.

[1bad65]

Actually I'm afraid for yours. Afraid you'll do something stupid. Afraid that you'll lose it and you pull it out while one of the boys I'd have with me puts you down. Don't mess with me in that way.


Don't tell me you are bringing JFS! :D

[godzillakungfu]

Okay Rudy teaches in California right?

[sanjuro_ronin]

Truly, the best way for this to go is Anthony shows up at the appointed time and place with video camera, copy of the days newspaper and such, if no one is there, he asks a bystander to comment on time and location and end of story.
If Rudy is there they BOTH BEHAVE, test each other, make a statement and its the end of it.


Personally I would suggest strippers and chicken wings after, but I doubt that will happen.

[1bad65]

Personally I would suggest strippers and chicken wings after, but I doubt that will happen.


An ironic choice.

[sanjuro_ronin]

An ironic choice.

:rolleyes:

Fine, Buffalo Wings, or since this is Florida, Corrupted-Voters-Wings :D

[bawang]

wasn't rudy and JFS friendly with bullshido? what happened?!

[godzillakungfu]

Yes over 2 years ago for Rudy. Over a year ago for JFS.

Drama is what happened.

[bawang]

(rodney king voice) can't we all just get along?
cmon this isn't some kind of epic blood feud, you guys really should apologize to each other.

[Anthony_ATT]

(rodney king voice) can't we all just get along?
cmon this isn't some kind of epic blood feud, you guys really should apologize to each other.

Apologize?

Rudy Abel has up a tombstone with my name on it on his website.

He has no idea what he set himself up for.

[1bad65]

He has no idea what he set himself up for.


I think he has. Notice he is frantically trying to duck out of the fight.

[lkfmdc]

sorry "Justine" didn't do it for me, a little too much muscle (or maybe the pic was just too dark?), but I'm all for posting as many pics of attractive women as possible inside this thread... it will up the page count and give us something to do while the fax is going through

[sanjuro_ronin]

sorry "Justine" didn't do it for me, a little too much muscle (or maybe the pic was just too dark?), but I'm all for posting as many pics of attractive women as possible inside this thread... it will up the page count and give us something to do while the fax is going through

Too much eh?

well...

[lkfmdc]

Too much eh?

well...

now she, she could get it.....

[lkfmdc]

http://inic.org/jarah.jpg

thoughts?

[sanjuro_ronin]

I gotta one for you that well steam your hakama !

May not be safe for some...

[MasterKiller]

ugh...I like my womenz a little thicker.

[firepalm]

http://inic.org/jarah.jpg

thoughts?

Dear sweet Jesus! :eek:
I would drink her bath water!

[The Willow Sword]

Quoted by MK

ugh...I like my womenz a little thicker.

http://shinymedia.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/18/beth_ditto_at_barfly.jpg

This is what Tickles MK's Fancy.

Peace,TWS

[lkfmdc]

Quoted by MK


http://shinymedia.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/18/beth_ditto_at_barfly.jpg

This is what Tickles MK's Fancy.

Peace,TWS

my eyes! my eyes! they burn! evil is that thing, away with thee.....

[Tomas]

I gotta one for you that well steam your hakama !

May not be safe for some...

Stay on topic pleeez. Waiver, venue, etc.

_swipes drool from the keyboard_

[MasterKiller]

MK likes his womenz brown with curves (http://www.surfersvillage.com/gal/pictures/MissReefNataliaBaccino.jpg)

[MasterKiller]

Quoted by MK


http://shinymedia.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/18/beth_ditto_at_barfly.jpg

This is what Tickles MK's Fancy.

Peace,TWS

*jacks in shame*

[godzillakungfu]

http://inic.org/jarah.jpg

thoughts?

You expect me to think after looking at that pic?

*EDIT*

WAIVER PLEASE.

[1bad65]

I'm pretty sure the waiver does not exist. The Duck has not shown any evidence to prove it does.

FYI, I don't think this 'Justin' guy exists either.

Notice that YET AGAIN The Duck came on here saying he was doing this and that to ensure the fight happens, yet nothing really happened, and when questioned for specifics he left.

[Yao Sing]

Too much eh?

well...

Got my attention. Will she be there? I think I can take her in maybe 15 to 20 rounds, could go longer though.

[lkfmdc]

can we get a pic of a hot girl holding a waiver?

[TenTigers]

yeah, yeah, waiver,shmaiver, bring on da womenz. Look guys, this thread is ridiculous, and time can be much better spent on other things. So more bebes!

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

You guys may remember the Russian girl that wanted to marry me?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Then there is this one...never went too far, but her and I have enjoyed some massage time together in the past.

also one I hope never to speak to again.

[KC Elbows]

Wow. Just. Wow.

Stating that it was your policy to pillage and that after said pillaging was spoken about, then Phrost approved is like admitting that you first started stealing the family car, then asked permission to do so. Seriously, how credible is the information of subterfuge when coming from the one who conspired to do it, followed by admissions that it was not even allowed at the time of said subterfuge? And how does scanning PM's = the earlier affirmations that Admins were _posting as_ other members. See, this was the original usage of the BS admin bashing, if I read correctly all those posts and counterposts and comments. But bravo on sliiiddding "posting as" into "pillaging of" accounts...of banned members. Funny thing, though, that you use banned member accounts as the platform to explain "Why I Left BS". You probably banned the same members you pillaged, amiright? So you would take it upon yourself to ban, then go through the PM's, then later discuss it with others? And it's the other admins who are at fault? Your logic, it does not compute. But thank you for playing.

The act of pillaging PM's requires one to be logged into their account, people posted from there. Additionally, I did not say it was not allowed at that time: I was admin in charge and had carte blanche to operate as I chose FROM PHROST. Additionally, I pointed out that other staff members did so, still do, and never suggested it was a great idea on any of our parts. Follow to this point?



Now, as for portraying as consumer reports, last time I checked, bullshido.com and bullshido.net have different missions, goals, and ways of dealing with and investigating into fraudulent claims.

Bull, everything on one is provided by the other, the source being the forum. Investigations, and the choices that define what is investigated, are defined by a social forum, not by any policy or standard on either site. Please share with me any posted procedures for investigations, if you know so much.


One is not the other. I'm a n00b with barely over 400 posts who has only been going to any form of BS for the last 2 years, maybe a little longer...and I know this! You were a friggin admin! How the heck can you be dense enough to bag on the investigative procedure after basically telling the world that you sifted through private messages for, in your words, "shenanigans"?

I was wrong, I ceased being wrong, the site still is, deal with it. There are no standards for investigation, which potentially affects real world businesses and legitimate teachers, and that's not good enough.



Now, I've yet to see them attack all CMA. In fact, I've been schooled on modern San Da at BS, as I was still under the assumption that much of San Da was staged by the chinese gov't (much like wushu in the past, and as San Da had been in the past) to appear as superior to many other artforms, namely Muay Thai, kickboxing from Japan, boxing and kickboxing from America, etc. Many of the members there have spent time to defend San Da, as well as other components of CMA, and I respect them for it.

The majority of those who have commented, who are specifically members of this site and not tied to BS, have continually backed Rudy Abel in his bid to back out of this fight in anyway possible (every amateur match I've ever had was at a gym where the phone number provided got me through to a living, breathing person, and every waiver/contract I ever signed was sent to me via fax and/or mail prior to the event, most times months prior) and have done nothing but rail against and make silly side remarks about Anthony, even though he has conceded date, venue, and many other points over the course of this event's planning. Many have even suggested locking the thread down LONG before the actual event takes place. Why? This is the best place to deal with this and should remain open until the day happens or passes.

Which has nothing to do with anything. Again, I have been a member here many years, and never "backed" anyone in their challenges, including Rudy. If you can't understand mocking 1bad as its own reward, I'm afraid you aren't going to enjoy the internet very much.


If the tables were reversed and Anthony had made nothing but snide remarks and sidelong attacks followed by continued misleading statements, followed by change of dates up to and including changing to dates that he KNEW the promoter/gym owner were out of town for, those supporting Rudy would have declared Anthony the loser by default long ago with derisive, derogatory terms. Yet, they cannot concede the same for their idol. Interesting.

What, that you just made a theoretical event and chose to comment on it as if it were real? Yes, it is.



How many times do you have to have your nose rubbed in this before you stop messing on the floor? Get over whatever personal differences you have, and start taking a long, hard look at the facts and the amount of time Rudy has had to prepare and how utterly horrible the preparation has been, then admit that this is the most laughable POS attempt at stringing people along I've ever seen.

You, sir, will never rub anyone's nose on the floor.

[KC Elbows]

And Badger, I did a double take when I saw your handle, nice to see ya.

[lkfmdc]

here's an important addition to this thread

http://students.washington.edu/huynhd/MisaCampo-tn.jpg

[lkfmdc]

a reason to go "down under" (http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2006/09/05/P14-060905-002.jpg)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

http://students.washington.edu/huynhd/MisaCampo-tn.jpg

Reply]
WOW!!

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I have a couple of good ones, but I am afraid I'd get banned for showing them as the girls are not quite dressed.

[KC Elbows]

here's an important addition to this thread

http://students.washington.edu/huynhd/MisaCampo-tn.jpg

You do fine work.

[rogue]

a reason to go "down under" (http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2006/09/05/P14-060905-002.jpg)

Looks a little too much like Celine Dion.

[KC Elbows]

To clarify my comments regarding investigative standards:

Often on Bullshido, the people investigating have no credentials to do so. The site itself is not able to retain individuals with knowledge of cma long enough to serve any useful purpose: those who do stay often have very limited experience, like Phrost himself. Additionally, they often conflate one style of kung fu with another, unrelated style, as though knowledge in one has any relevance to the other. Thus, their approach to kung fu styles has been periodically hostile, followed by periods in which they recoup their losses due to arguing from a position of ignorance. The investigations yielded in this manner are, likewise, poor.

To see a good example of what does work, one can view, at several sites including Bullshido, the postings of former jungyae moosul members. These are generally first hand accounts by people who have a deep familiarity with the subject matter they are discussing, and are far more productive than any single investigation that Bullshido has yielded, because they speak to the instructors of said school directly in terms they know well and explain events that were often unexplained within the schools. Likewise, these former members have a better understanding of the flaws of the training and martial art than random opinionated morons who know nothing about it, but want to talk nonetheless.

To top this off, many investigations are begun by flame wars, or by personality conflicts on the board, so that the investigative function of the site and the social function have become hopelessly intermingled, leading to popularity equaling immunity from investigation and unpopularity equaling just cause for investigation.

[KC Elbows]

Looks a little too much like Celine Dion.

I agree, but feel the free service Ross is providing is far too important to let one skinny chick ruin it.

[Lam Tong Long]

http://misacampo.com/media/store/11.jpg

[Knifefighter]

Not only is she hot, but she can watch your back:

http://revistatpm.uol.com.br/53/kyra/pop/f9.jpg

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Wow!! That is the hottest pic yet!!

[Anthony_ATT]

To clarify my comments regarding investigative standards:

Often on Bullshido, the people investigating have no credentials to do so. The site itself is not able to retain individuals with knowledge of cma long enough to serve any useful purpose: those who do stay often have very limited experience, like Phrost himself. Additionally, they often conflate one style of kung fu with another, unrelated style, as though knowledge in one has any relevance to the other. Thus, their approach to kung fu styles has been periodically hostile, followed by periods in which they recoup their losses due to arguing from a position of ignorance. The investigations yielded in this manner are, likewise, poor.

To see a good example of what does work, one can view, at several sites including Bullshido, the postings of former jungyae moosul members. These are generally first hand accounts by people who have a deep familiarity with the subject matter they are discussing, and are far more productive than any single investigation that Bullshido has yielded, because they speak to the instructors of said school directly in terms they know well and explain events that were often unexplained within the schools. Likewise, these former members have a better understanding of the flaws of the training and martial art than random opinionated morons who know nothing about it, but want to talk nonetheless.

To top this off, many investigations are begun by flame wars, or by personality conflicts on the board, so that the investigative function of the site and the social function have become hopelessly intermingled, leading to popularity equaling immunity from investigation and unpopularity equaling just cause for investigation.

You forgot about your claims Bullshido is a cult. Please wear your tinfoil hat and serenade us with that.

I am proud of the investigation I personally did on JFS. Not only did JFS prove everything he did was a fraud first hand, it got rid of KC Elbows.

[Knifefighter]

Wow!! That is the hottest pic yet!!
Reply-
BJJ black belt Kyra Gracie

[sunfist]

Id pull her guard.

Id take her back.

Id give her the third hook.

Id put my lama in her pie.

Id walk her circle.

Id bong her fook.

[lkfmdc]

at a recent training session at a certain NY BJJ school, an accomplished grappler known for his impressive movement simply sat in his opponent's guard and made no attempt to pass. Then suddenly, he stuck his head in her triangle and passed out rather than tapped :p

[lkfmdc]

I've decided, it is essential that we focus on what is important! The waiver!

[KC Elbows]

You forgot about your claims Bullshido is a cult. Please wear your tinfoil hat and serenade us with that.

I am proud of the investigation I personally did on JFS. Not only did JFS prove everything he did was a fraud first hand, it got rid of KC Elbows.

I made a comparison between conducts of martial cults and similar conduct within Bullshido. I believe I suggested that this was due to the tendency of former cult members to carry their need for spoon fed style leadership to their post cult experiences, trying to fit roles as followers and/or micromanaging, hyperbolistic leaders while adhering to the idea of a goal that is not realistic, and thus, endlessly unattainable: I suggested that since my situation during part of that time qualified for said description, and since I had the most active administrative presence of anyone, including Phrost, during an extended formative period at the site, it is not unlikely that I contributed. I did not point out, but will now, that for the last few years before I left, I almost entirely dealt with policy and made a strong point of not using the forum for a social outlet in the belief that, unlike most forums, at that time Bullshido WAS operating as a forum with a (mistaken) claim to being a consumer reporting agency, and thus someone had to stay aloof of pointless trolling and flaming involving people who were in no way central to the site's investigative goals.

I believe I also suggested that the process is hardly a highly planned one in either case, but you can harp about conspiracy theories all you like: however, like in certain martial cults, the departure of well-known members under strained circumstances within the staff lead to those remaining in the staff who desire damage control to rewrite the events, often suggesting those former members were mentally unstable; they might also look away when one staff member's quiet departure(not mine, obviously) is rewritten by their fearless leader in order to suggest the opposite of the reason that staff member left, despite normally standing up for that individual, etc.

As for you getting rid of me, it didn't happen. I never had a problem with you, it was Phrost's claims, and the blocking of all no holds barred discussion of them, that proved to me that the site was just an irresponsible playground, which should have been obvious to me sooner.

As for the problems with the investigative standards, I am not saying anything Wastrel did not say a solid year before me. The current split into two sites does not magically change the fact that your recruitment pool for investigators will be myopic and lockstep, being drawn from the forums; not six months ago you still had up a rating system for different martial arts that was based on, quite literally, nothing; no solid rationale for the ratings, no set of standards for judging that carried from one entry to the next, zilch. But, typically, it was posted anyway.

Regarding you, the investigation I was mentioning was one you only mentioned to the BBC as a teaser and to feed a flame war on the main board related to it, only to then have to shelve it because your info was no good. Your JFS investigation was premature, but I believe you will find a post on Bullshido from then of me saying that he should have stated to the students his level of ground experience. JFS and I never cared for each other, nor do we practice the same styles, so your constant reference to him means nothing to me. I just thought your work was sloppy and suggested a haste in your work that was not worth the results and risk, most especially the chance that you, in that haste, could potentially damage the business of someone in the future who was not, in fact, Bullshido.

For example, long before you were staff, you once help an Admin investigate a new member who came on and claimed that a former member demoted him for potentially political reasons, and not martial. I seem to recall looking into it, and finding that, yes, as far as could be determined, that's actually what happened. You didn't find that out, as I recall, because you were focused on finding out only what supported the goal you were given, find out about this new member. The Admin who assigned you that goal was focused on helping his friend, and someone associated with the whole business was using a dummy account solely to threaten this new member via PM, physical threats I would not have known about had I not used one banned members PM's.

This case illustrates my point exactly. Basing an investigative body off of a social forum creates a tendency to insulate the group from their own errors. You go out and fight, given, but you talk the talk no more than the rest of the site, the vast majority of whom have never and will never fight full contact, and you simply aren't an investigator, so it's often a toss up between people who really aren't qualified to investigate thoroughly, people without martial experience, or people without the specific martial experience the investigation calls for, matched with a lack of the kinds of funds needed to do a real investigation and the desperate need for all involved for these things to be real investigations, or, more specifically, seem to be real investigations.

Thus the main forum titled "only serious investigations" that is seriously deficient in both seriousness and investigations, a second site that is only said to be independent and the source of original investigations, but is really just an offshoot of the forums, and the need to periodically judge styles without recourse to knowledge of those styles: really, these things are little more than patches you can wear so that everyone can see you're one of the chosen few of Grandmaster Wang Ke.

So, yes, a group making a claim of being a worthy investigative body that is not, holding itself together by the belief that it is, does parallel a school of people claiming to train martial arts but not really doing so and holding themselves together by their shared belief that they are. There is some need for "outsiders" to this whole process, and there will always be casual members who are not particularly aware of what silly things the full timers fixate on.

Wait, weren't we talking about some chick with a waiver?

[SifuAbel]

Regarding you, the investigation I was mentioning was one you only mentioned to the BBC as a teaser and to feed a flame war on the main board related to it, only to then have to shelve it because your info was no good. Your JFS investigation was premature, but I believe you will find a post on Bullshido from then of me saying that he should have stated to the students his level of ground experience. JFS and I never cared for each other, nor do we practice the same styles, so your constant reference to him means nothing to me. I just thought your work was sloppy and suggested a haste in your work that was not worth the results and risk, most especially the chance that you, in that haste, could potentially damage the business of someone in the future who was not, in fact, Bullshido.

You left out the fact that the so called "investigation" was nothing but payback for his getting up in arms about the whole ronin/aeso fiasco. Neal basically making bulldoodoo a troll run enterprise. etc etc. Before this JFS was cool.

Love all the chicks, BTW.

I wonder if megatool went to office max today. :rolleyes:

[unkokusai]

Give it up already, saru. Everyone knows you have no intention of fighting. Just admit it already and be done with it.

[OsirisBJJ]

The entire "investigation" deal is pretty **** silly. Ironically its our detractors that made it a big deal. Anthony meant it in a general term, not the pretentious mishmash of professional folklore, the scientific method and anything else you need a degree for. However, kickcatcher came in and was like "UH OH, an INVESTIGATION!!!111 He has pics, vid, testimony, web records, etc., BUT ITS CLEARLY INCOMPLETE and fueled by a baseless VENDETTA." Thats how the **** became so important and pretentious. How someone could confuse a bunch of punk kids and bored professionals talking **** with a serious agency, I don't know, but thats where we're at now.

[OsirisBJJ]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that we're arguing old ass bullshido politics on an entirely unrelated board several years (or months? I dont recall) later?

[KC Elbows]

How someone could confuse a bunch of punk kids and bored professionals talking **** with a serious agency, I don't know, but thats where we're at now.

It might be the main forum being titled for investigations, with the intent being serious discussion, serious being in bold, et al. And having a separate site that stores many of the results of those punk kids' and bored professionals' "investigations" as a supposedly separate store of articles that have at least the veneer of being "official".

Aside from that, you are correct, it's a bunch of people playing online. Playing employees. Of some sort of make-shift consumer reporting agency.

[KC Elbows]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that we're arguing old ass bullshido politics on an entirely unrelated board several years (or months? I dont recall) later?

I think it has to do with the relationship between the site and cma. Had Phrost simply argued out a point instead of de facto calling every cmaist arguing with him fake without any evidence, perhaps it wouldn't be so. Probably not, though.

[OsirisBJJ]

It might be the main forum being titled for investigations, with the intent being serious discussion, serious being in bold, et al. And having a separate site that stores many of the results of those punk kids' and bored professionals' "investigations" as a supposedly separate store of articles that have at least the veneer of being "official".

Yeh, I realize that. By "people", I meant the geniuses that put that into action. Not at all a move I was fond of.

[KC Elbows]

You left out the fact that the so called "investigation" was nothing but payback for his getting up in arms about the whole ronin/aeso fiasco. Neal basically making bulldoodoo a troll run enterprise. etc etc. Before this JFS was cool.

In fairness, he was cool with a segment on the site, and mostly those who had attended throwdowns with him. Another segment, and the staff who agreed with them, were not fond of him. He struck me as another Jamoke, bombastic, colorful, yet another persona at a site with increasingly more persona for members to rally around, and less individual thinkers.

[KC Elbows]

Yeh, I realize that. By "people", I meant the geniuses that put that into action. Not at all a move I was fond of.

Hehe. Funny. Not laughing at you, just remembering the joys of random acts of psuedo-organization/pep rallies for the masses from the genius. Sorry, I meant geniuses.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I am glad that this thread has taken a turn for the better ( pics of babes) and that things are looking better for all invovled ( pics of babes) and that we are putting things in perspective (pics of babe).

Speaking of which, here is something for MK, since he likes his "babes with back":

[1bad65]

Only 10 more days to go!


Did you get that fax to Anthony yet Duck? Have your 'promoter' friend fax it to you and then you fax it to the number Anthony gave you. Keep the confirmation page and post it here. Thats called PROOF.


And remember this post from 8-11-07:


The date of this fight you have (again) openly agitated for and shot your fat mouth off about comes and goes and it doesn't happen, for any reason (no bull**** excuses about 'the other guy' miss) and you will have flushed yourself into JFS's septic tank where the two of you can practice your empty dialog together for all eternity.

Everyone knows what's not going to happen, saru.

[MasterKiller]

Speaking of which, here is something for MK, since he likes his "babes with back":

Buddha Bless You, Sanjuro_Ronin!

[Badger]

OH MY!!!! This thread is more of a hardening exercise than the hardening exercise thread!!!!!!!!!!

[sanjuro_ronin]

Truly, one must appreciate the finer things in life if we are to balance our yin and yang.

[Badger]

i want to go to Braums all of a sudden.............

[Anthony_ATT]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that we're arguing old ass bullshido politics on an entirely unrelated board several years (or months? I dont recall) later?

We're arguing it, because like a jilted lover, KC Elbows feels the need to be right in his departure from the relationship.

That's what really the whole split is about. Those bad people at Bullshido laughed at me, I'll show them!!!

[Anthony_ATT]

You left out the fact that the so called "investigation" was nothing but payback for his getting up in arms about the whole ronin/aeso fiasco. Neal basically making bulldoodoo a troll run enterprise. etc etc. Before this JFS was cool.

Love all the chicks, BTW.

I wonder if megatool went to office max today. :rolleyes:

Name calling from Rudy who can't get this fight right with three months of planning. Rudy couldn't plan a p.issup in a brewery.

Your boy sent it? It's easy to call and find out.

[1bad65]

Duck, is it safe to say 'Justin' is back in Miami? After all, the show you claim he was promoting was last night. :rolleyes:


Just 10 more days....

[Anthony_ATT]

Rudy,

I don't have to drive 20 minutes to the Office Max by ATT to check whether you sent the fax or not. Driving down to North Miami to find out the place where the alledge fight is to be was closed was lesson enough.

F*uck me once, shame on you.
F*uck me twice, shame on me.

There is no FAX waiting for me. Rudy Lied Again.

[lkfmdc]

F*uck Vida Guerra once, hurrah.
F*uck Vida Guerra twice, need a nap...

Come on, I photoshop a waiver on a naked chick and no one even bothers to notice????

[1bad65]

Like we are saying, it's easy to PROVE a fax was sent, but when asked for proof, The Duck disappeared AGAIN.

[1bad65]

Even Emboesso has stopped posting over on The Duck's board. And he was nutriding so bad, you know he had to be surgically removed.

[Anthony_ATT]

F*uck Vida Guerra once, hurrah.
F*uck Vida Guerra twice, need a nap...

Come on, I photoshop a waiver on a naked chick and no one even bothers to notice????

The whole idea is to:

F*ck Vida Guerra every chance you get. :)

[Phrost]

Hi Brian.

Never could get you to meet me for lunch when I worked down in your neck of the woods. How about it? All of this Internet BS tends to dissipate when people are face-to-face.

[Tomas]

Stay on topic please.

Waiver, venue, chicks.

No distractions.

[MasterKiller]

[red leader]

Stay on target.

[/red leader]

[sanjuro_ronin]

What this thread needs is a babe eating some jam !

[Badger]

mmm grape...i can eat that all night long

[SifuAbel]

Your boy sent it? It's easy to call and find out.

:rolleyes: Oh, I see. Now you're going to play the stuttering ******* game. What happened to "I'm going to go pick it up at frigging OFFICE MAX after class." ? I see now that you haven't even checked.

To harp on the location is retarded. To give a fax number thats not in any way easily accessible to you is cowardly.

What, is it getting too real for you, butterball?

Now, back to the chicks.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Yes sir !

Hollywood take it up a notch !

[Anthony_ATT]

:rolleyes: Oh, I see. Now you're going to play the stuttering ******* game. What happened to "I'm going to go pick it up at frigging OFFICE MAX after class." ? I see now that you haven't even checked.

To harp on the location is retarded. To give a fax number thats not in any way easily accessible to you is cowardly.

What, is it getting too real for you, butterball?

Now, back to the chicks.

A$$hat. Learn how to read. There is no fax waiting for me. Call the place yourself to check.

Like I believe Rudy Abel the liar. Go to the school. Its closed. Pick up the fax. Not there.

I'm growing my nails out just for you Rudy.