An Epic of Internet-challenge Stupidity

[rogue]

What's with Bullshido and all these sex industry workers?:confused:

[KC Elbows]

What's with Bullshido and all these sex industry workers?:confused:

When you have a freakishly big mouth and no other skills, I guess you do what you gotta.

[Fox]

I've always said I don't travel over 'net bs. Hiding? Yeah, I'm hiding all right, I've only posted my name, BJJ rank, my gym's name, and one of my instructor's names. Get real.



I never said you were.

Concidering the fact you called me a retard, idiot,Illiterate,plus a few more leads me to believe I can not teach=calling me a fraud. PLEASE investigate me for you own peace of mind, and BS.





You fail at reading comprehension. And your spelling is not very good either.
I love the way you bring my name up in that thread over at BS. I did not make a mistake in posting mr.bad, because that is how I view how small you really are.
The other mistakes, I will give you. I want you to feel special...LMAO

On a side note Rudy you have pm's

[Fox]

Yes, but if saying it 7,000 times before you realize it gets you nowhere is what's required, I'd rather get it done with quick-like.

After all, you won't be done arguing with him regardless. Mark my words. Come the fight or non-fight, you might take a little break, but you'll be back here to do the same on some other issue, endlessly, and, using your cheesy swashbuckling font, TO NO AVAIL!

MARK MY WORDS!

I predict that you will again act insanely on the internet, regardless of how reasonable you may or may not be elsewhere.

Not having the time to follow you to all your haunts, please forgive me if I simply make fun of you here for a time, D'Artagnan.

In the future, this would be much more palatable if you brought Raquel Welch and Christopher Lee. Keep this in mind.

Kudos to you for seeing him for what he is! You would get a better responce from a rock though.

[1bad65]

Keep talking, it's more egg on your faces when Sept 29th no it's Sept 28th now it's Oct 1st arrives. :D



As for the blue belt comment, I was asked for my MA experience. I posted that I am a blue belt under Rolles Gracie, and that I train boxing and MT also. I was in no way bragging.

[1bad65]

When you have a freakishly big mouth and no other skills, I guess you do what you gotta.


Like talk **** for months about how your gonna beat some guy down and then duck out at the last minute?

[Fox]

Keep talking, it's more egg on your faces when Sept 29th no it's Sept 28th now it's Oct 1st arrives. :D



As for the blue belt comment, I was asked for my MA experience. I posted that I am a blue belt under Rolles Gracie, and that I train boxing and MT also. I was in no way bragging.

That is what I call bragging. If I listed everthing I trained in most would say I was bragging as well. If I listed my ranks, I would say that was bragging as well.

See if Anthony would come here and speak on his own behalf. Ask him to bankroll
a trip for you to come see me.

Can we get this guy a Chicken Avatar?

[SifuAbel]

Can we get this guy a Chicken Avatar?


Bwahahahaha "Mr. Chicken" ROFL LMAO!!!

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

1badChicken65

[Fox]

1badChicken65

You gotta love it. Your name has been brought up on that thread as well on BS

[Fox]

I love how he calls me a professional MA'st then in another post I am a retard, Idiot..yada,yada and the list goes on.

[1bad65]

That is what I call bragging. If I listed everthing I trained in most would say I was bragging as well. If I listed my ranks, I would say that was bragging as well.

See if Anthony would come here and speak on his own behalf. Ask him to bankroll
a trip for you to come see me.

Can we get this guy a Chicken Avatar?

Fox, you're a mess. Dude STOP sending me PMs, keep it public.

I was asked my experience, I told the truth. Whatever. I've seen you mention your Black Belts on Bullshido! So you are a braggart too then.

As for me travelling, let's talk about that: I have called Rudy a fight ducker. Yup, I stated my opinion of him. Now Tom Fox here, he says I must travel to Southern California to fight Rudy in Rudy's gym. I disagreed with him and his wife, so he says I have to travel to Oklahoma to fight him at his tournament. See the pattern?

So Mr. Fox goes on Bullshido. He calls a guy named Coda Scott a fraud, he stated his opinion on Coda. So by Mr Fox's logic, he has to travel to Coda Scott and fight him correct? Well guess what.... Coda lives in the SAME TOWN! So when will you be taking YOUR OWN DEMANDS OF OTHERS, Mr Fox, and marching into Coda's gym and fighting him?

[1bad65]

I love how he calls me a professional MA'st then in another post I am a retard and an idiot. Yada,yada and the list goes on.

Just trying to help.

[SifuAbel]

I have called Rudy a fight ducker.

Correction: You have spun tenuous half truths, pseudo facts and out of context posts to make an argument to help support your position. Period.

And you didn't post ANY of your information, Mr. Chicken. I did.

[Fox]

Fox, your a mess. Dude STOP sending me PMs, keep it public.

I was asked my experience, I told the truth. Whatever. I've seen you mention your Black Belts on Bullshido! So your a braggart too then.

As for me travelling, let's talk about that: I have called Rudy a fight ducker. Yup, I stated my opinion of him. Now Tom Fox here, he says I must travel to Southern California to fight Rudy in Rudy's gym. I disagreed with him and his wife, so he says I have to travel to Oklahoma to fight him at his tournament. See the pattern?

So Mr. Fox goes on Bullshido. He calls a guy named Coda Scott a fraud, he stated his opinion on Coda. So by Mr Fox's logic, he has to travel to Coda Scott and fight him correct? Well guess what.... Coda lives in the SAME TOWN! So when will you be taking YOUR OWN DEMANDS OF OTHERS Mr Fox and marching into Cods'a gym and fighting him?

Actually if you could read, I invited you to the same tournament as Coda, killing two birds with one stone, so to speak. Have I bragged about it on here or BS? I am not the only one that was on Coda's gym if you remember. LOL@ your bull****.
The tournment was not in my town dumb****.

[Fox]

Just trying to help.

Help yourself. Rudy you read my PM'S? They were only about The Chicken wanting me to give you 0 credit.

[cjurakpt]

I'm confused and don't have several hours to read the whole thread:

without speculating as to whether Rudy and Anthony are actually going to fight, has
a) a venue been decided?
b) a date set?
c) a waiver sent / signed / returned?

also, is this Fox 1bad65 thing also going to be settled in person, or is it just forum flaming?

[1bad65]

Correction: You have spun tenuous half truths, pseudo facts and out of context posts to make an argument to help support your position. Period.

And you didn't post ANY of your information, Mr. Chicken. I did.

You are still lying. Par for the course. Dude, I posted EXACT posts of you ducking ST00, I said where you 'declined' to 'cross hands' with Djimbe's instructor, who you had called 'infirm', btw. I posted where you 'declined' to fight Anthony when he was in SoCal. I posted where you told Knifefighter 'after him, then you' and you never fought him either. You continued to deny Taylor a GYM address, and you have promised to come fight me. All this talking, AND NO FIGHTS! And come Oct 1st, or whatever dates you change it to, you will still have ZERO FIGHTS.

Idiot, YOU POSTED where you found my PERSONAL info on my Bullshido profile. I put it there knowing it's available to ANY BS MEMBER. Not only are you a liar, you're not even a very good one.


Sept 29th Sept 28th Oct 1st approaches...

[Fox]

I'm confused and don't have several hours to read the whole thread:

without speculating as to whether Rudy and Anthony are actually going to fight, has
a) a venue been decided?
b) a date set?
c) a waiver sent / signed / returned?

also, is this Fox 1bad65 thing also going to be settled in person, or is it just forum flaming?

I offered to meet him halfway, but sadly he does not fight. He only post half truths.

[rogue]

When you have a freakishly big mouth and no other skills, I guess you do what you gotta.

Oh, I thought it had to do with poor self esteem.

[1bad65]

I'm confused and don't have several hours to read the whole thread:

without speculating as to whether Rudy and Anthony are actually going to fight, has
a) a venue been decided?
b) a date set?
c) a waiver sent / signed / returned?

also, is this Fox 1bad65 thing also going to be settled in person, or is it just forum flaming?

I'll answer that:
a) maybe. The first phone # to the gym The Duck gave was disconnected. He says he gave Anthony a new #. Anthony has not said if it worked.
b) in theory it has. For over 2 months it was supposed to be on Sept 29th. A few days ago The Duck began demanding it be on Sept 28th. Anthony agreed to the 28th and less than ONE HOUR later The Duck wanted to change it to Oct 1st! Anthony has agreed to Oct 1st.
c) The Duck never sent the waiver. For over two months his 'schools lawyer' was drafting it. Last week he said it was his 'promoter' friend writing it. Supposedly it's at the gym The Duck says the fight will occur.

Rudy has said he will come down and fight me. We all know he won't, because he never has followed through on ANY e-challenge. And there have been many.

[SifuAbel]

I'm confused and don't have several hours to read the whole thread:

without speculating as to whether Rudy and Anthony are actually going to fight, has
a) a venue been decided?
b) a date set?
c) a waiver sent / signed / returned?



Yes to all.

[1bad65]

Actually if you could read, I invited you to the same tournament as Coda, killing two birds with one stone, so to speak. Have I bragged about it on here or BS? I am not the only one that was on Coda's gym if you remember. LOL@ your bull****.
The tournment was not in my town dumb****.

No, no, no, Mr Fox. YOU SAID I had to travel to his/your place. So when are you gonna go fight Coda at his gym? Or are you, by your own logic, a chicken?

[1bad65]

I offered to meet him halfway, but sadly he does not travel. He only posts people's own words/posts.


You know where to find me. And according to YOUR OWN RULES, you travel to me. If you come down, you'll be the next 50-something idiot to get whipped by a BJJ blue belt!

[SifuAbel]

You continued to deny Taylor a GYM address, and you have promised to come fight me. ....

Idiot, YOU POSTED where you found my PERSONAL info on my Bullshido profile. I put it there knowing it's available to ANY BS MEMBER. Not only are you a liar, you're not even a very good one.


Taylor can come to the same gym I'm meeting anthony. PM anthony for the address. I'll make a necklace out of his teeth.

I can very easily find your posts on how YOU wanted ME to come to Austin and THEN when I arrived be told where/who you are. Don't take these people for fools, Mr. Chicken. They do eventually see through you.

[Fox]

No, no, no, Mr Fox. YOU SAID I had to travel to his/your place. So when are you gonna go fight Coda at his gym? Or are you, by your own logic, a chicken?

Coda does not have a GYM? Also he is just as chicken as you! I rents a space in Bodyworks, which is not his own gym. BTW he chickened out on fighting me, when he did own his own school. I already sparred him and he has no skills.

[Fox]

You know where to find me. And according to YOUR OWN RULES, you travel to me. If you come down, you'll be the next 50-something idiot to get whipped by a BJJ blue blet!

blet...pot meet kettle

I said I would meet you half way never siad I would come to your Gym.Braging again I see..LMAS@1CHICKEN65

[1bad65]

Taylor can come to the same gym I'm meeting anthony. PM anthony for the address. I'll make a necklace out of his teeth.

I can very easily find your posts on how YOU wanted ME to come to Austin and THEN when I arrived be told where/who you are. Don't take these people for fools, Mr. Chicken. They do eventually see through you.


As I stated earlier, you have avoided Taylor. His trip to Florida has already occured. Congrats Duck, add another name to the list!

Just keep lying. THE TRUTH IS that my name, bjj belt rank, gym name, and one of my instructor's name has been posted, AND ON THIS THREAD! Keep saying you have no idea about this as your excuse. I'm praying that you come down. If you can walk out under your own power, I'll consider it a loss for me.

[1bad65]

Coda does not have a GYM? Also he is just as chicken as you! I rents a space in Bodyworks, which is not his own gym. BTW he chickened out on fighting me, when he did own his own school. I already sparred him and he has no skills.

So when will you be going to Bodyworks and fighting him? Quit chickening out. Your own 'logic' dictates you travel to him and fight him at his place.

When are you coming to my gym?

[SifuAbel]

Help yourself. Rudy you read my PM'S? They were only about The Chicken wanting me to give you 0 credit.


Mr. Chicken has already butchered himself and placed himself into a 350 degree as far as I'm concerned. He is now basting himself into a golden brown and delicious hue. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm chicken.

You've never answered MY the questions Mr. Chicken.

How can I duck challenges when they were almost ALWAYS were set where I teach? With me being there every day or at least every scheduled day.

How is postponing a match a month or two ducking?

Why should I fight if I felt I needed time to heal?

How is declining a match ducking?

Most would say that its the "adult" thing to do. Not that you would have any notion of that. Not that I even cared at that point since I had been stood up by the fat 'tard twice before.

Mr. Chicken your skin is getting crispy.

[SifuAbel]

As I stated earlier, you have avoided Taylor. His trip to Florida has already occured. Congrats Duck, add another name to the list!

Just keep lying. THE TRUTH IS that my name, bjj belt rank, gym name, and one of my instructor's name has been posted, AND ON THIS THREAD! Keep saying you have no idea about this as your excuse. I'm praying that you come down. If you can walk out under your own power, I'll consider it a loss for me.

huh?!?!?
Ok anybody with half a brain will look at this one post and do a head shaking triple take.

So his trip came and went and i ducked him? Thats retarded.

And the info I'm speaking of was at bullshiod were you shat a cyberbrick at the mere mention of your teachers name.

[Fox]

So when will you be going to Bodyworks and fighting him? Quit chickening out. Your own 'logic' dictates you travel to him and fight him at his place.

When are you coming to my gym?

When are you ever gonna MANNUP and travel to a fight? Bodyworks does not allow people to actually fight on their property. I have already sparred Coda. I was at least willing to take you on at a legit place, out of the way of my school or yours
DUMB****. I will not lose my job fighting in a public place with outside interferance

[1bad65]

How can I duck challenges...

Like this:


Get ready for the fight of(for) your life. Sep. or Oct. would be good for me.


I'd like to get on their Sept 22 event at SOBOBA CASINO in San Jacinto CA.


Thats not good for me. It has to be after Oct.

And this:



Update: now Anthony doesn't like friday[Sept 28] because he has a "life".

And just what is so GD important that he can't plan 3 weeks in advance to show up one day early? He freaking lives there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's not the one traveling this time. BS on that noise.

THERE IS NO REASON HE CAN'T SHOW UP ON FRIDAY[Sept 28th]!!!


Or will Sept 28th suddenly be a bad date for you?


It will have to be on Mon the 1st at 7:00pm.

[1bad65]

Fox, I do not travel and I've never said otherwise. You want some, you know where I'm at. Grab that wife of yours, hop your 50-something old ass onto a plane, and come to my gym.

Let me know in advance so I can be sure to be there. I'll tape it and then post it along with Springer's vid! You two can be birds of a feather!



Better get Coda first though. According to you, you have to or you are a chicken.

[Fox]

Fox, I do not travel and I've never said otherwise. You want some, you know where I'm at. Grab that wife of yours, hop your 50-something old ass onto a plane, and come to my gym.

Let me know in advance so I can be sure to be there. I'll tape it and then post it along with Springer's vid! You two can be birds of a feather!



Better get Coda first though. According to you, you have to or you are a chicken.

Yep, hide in your gym. I have already tried Coda and he chickened out just as you have. I invited him to a legit tournament, and he was a NO SHOW like you.

[1bad65]

Yep, hide in your gym.


Like this?



How can I duck challenges when they were almost ALWAYS were set where I teach?

[Fox]

LOL@your ass. You sure can hide behind that keyboard of yours. Scared to travel to a legit place is more like it. My old ass..Walk in my shoes or teach a class of mine for ONE day and see who gasses out first>

[Fox]

Like this?

More like this,

I 1badchicken will hide at my gym, so if I get my ass kicked by a 50 something man, others can step in and fight for me..LOL:D:D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

How come no one ever wants to fly to Chicago and kick my ass anymore....:(

[1bad65]

LOL@your ass. You sure can hide behind that keyboard of yours. Scared to travel to a legit place is more like it. My old ass..Walk in my shoes or teach a class of mine for ONE day and see who gasses out first>


I work out at a legit place. South Austin Gym/Vasquez Academy in Austin. Google 'Vasquez Academy' and educate yourself.

I train with guys who have fought in K-1, IFL, FFC, XFCStrikeforce, Renegades EF, and pro boxers. You can't even get a fat 22-year old poseur out of your town. I doubt I would even break a sweat whipping you or Rudy.

[Fox]

How come no one ever wants to fly to Chicago and kick my ass anymore....:(

Thats easy..1bademo does not travel to fight, besides he does not know KungFu:D

[Fox]

I work out at a legit place. South Austin Gym/Vasquez Academy in Austin. Google 'Vasquez Academy' and educate yourself.

I train with guys who have fought in K-1, IFL, FFC, XFCStrikeforce, Renegades EF, and pro boxers. You can't even get a fat 22-year old poseur out of your town. I doubt I would even break a sweat whipping you or Rudy.
By legit, I was talking about neither your school or mine..LOL ask Hungryjoe, olrion,edon4ever about me. You would not have a chance since you hide at your gym.

[1bad65]

You would not have a chance since you hide at your gym.


Keep telling yourself that.


When are you going to fight Coda at his place?

[KC Elbows]

Like talk **** for months about how your gonna beat some guy down and then duck out at the last minute?

So, basically, you're gonna say something about me that you either made up, or were incorrectly told, and not explain yourself? And then talk about how other people don't have honor?

Again, where did you get the impression that I was banned from Bullshido? I'll help, either:

1) You were told by a person you can name

2) You made it up

If you're gonna talk, you'd best stand behind what you say, 1bad. Since you spoke out of turn, answer my question. Or quit throwing the word honor around like it's something you know about.

[1bad65]

KC, I made an assumption. And yes, I know the joke about that. I was wrong and I've admitted I was wrong. Honest, sorry if it caused you any grief.

Lets get back to The Duck at hand.

[Fox]

So, basically, you're gonna say something about me that you either made up, or were incorrectly told, and not explain yourself? And then talk about how other people don't have honor?

Again, where did you get the impression that I was banned from Bullshido? I'll help, either:

1) You were told by a person you can name

2) You made it up

If you're gonna talk, you'd best stand behind what you say, 1bad. Since you spoke out of turn, answer my question. Or quit throwing the word honor around like it's something you know about.

I vote for #2, because he will not give you a name.

I will fight you and Coda when you show and then run along side of him..*******.

[KC Elbows]

KC, I made an assumption. And yes, I know the joke about that. I was wrong and I've admitted I was wrong. Honest, sorry if it caused you any grief.

I'll be clear here, I don't like the fact my disagreeing with you means that anyone else who disagrees with you looks like my "side," but I more dislike cop outs like "I made an assumption."

You made a statement, not just an assumption, it was cut and dried false, and you stated it like you knew it. This is typical of guys like you at Bullshido: you state something because someone disagrees with you, not because you've checked it out.

This is also typical of Bullshido "investigations", and undoubtedly where you picked up the habit, so I'll cut you some slack for that, but not much.

You hang out at a website where the staff knowingly let Phrost call me a fake when I wasn't even teaching, nor had he ever seen me train or fight. To clarify why this is utter hypocrisy, and why I mock your honor that conveniently lets Anna off the hook while you stalk Rudy, is because I train hard, claim nothing, don't interrupt my betters, and, as of this summer, had a guy who I helped my friend and teacher train win his first mma bout, while helping design the program for my teacher's new fight team, from China. I was in China for other things, but had two separate sanshou coaches coach me FOR FREE because they respected my skills and attitude toward training.

Meanwhile, fakes like the bulk of the members on Bullshido pretend to be a consumer reporting agency while working under the most wretched, useless, investigative standards ever, running off your mouths like you've fought mma when most of you haven't and never will, running off your mouths like you discovered all ranges of fighting when half of you couldn't do the most basic of throws for no more reason than your favored rule set doesn't allow them, all while claiming to be progressive and forward thinking because the guys who came BEFORE YOU were progressive and forward thinking.

I know **** well that less than a quarter of the members over there have ever done any full contact sparring, much less fighting, but that quarter seems more than willing to let the rest "investigate" in exactly the same way you produced your statement about me, uneducated stabs in the dark made to win flame wars, and nothing more. That's the nature of nine tenths of Bullshido's "investigations," and I simply don't think that's good enough to be running around acting like members of a consumer reporting agency. If Consumer Reports did that, they'd be out of business from the double whammy of being open to suits and being useless in any meaningful way to consumers.

You made an assumption because your favorite place to waste work time someone else is paying you for takes flack from me, and because I hassled you at your new second favorite place to do it, and you want to act like you have some cornerstone on honor and intelligence, and that's just too hard to do while being criticized in a way you're insulated from on the so-called "no holds barred" discussion on Bullshido.

Here, educate yourself on the topic you chose to speak up on.

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=674486&postcount=51

[1bad65]

Jesus Christ KC, I made an assumption. Write a book about it if you will, but it's the truth. Hell, I apologized TWICE.

[SifuAbel]

Like this:


And this:

Darn, no multi quotes.

anyways. You are picking at straws.

Me wanting one more months to recover FROM A FREAKING KNEE SURGERY is a non issue. 6 months later when it came to pass, nobody said anything.

As for the second, me changing the date has more to do with accommodating the promoter than anything else. And now the date is set.

So whats left for you is to salvage the little attention you're getting here by stirring **** that doesn't even have any meaning.

As usual, I have posted questions to you that you cannot answer.

I think KC has put a cork in your bottle, Mr Chicken.

Hint: there is absolutely NO ONE of merit here that give 2 pig plops about what you think or have to say.

[1bad65]

Ok, from now on I'm going to concentrate only on The Duck on this thread. Considering that he changed the fight date TWICE IN ONE HOUR recently, it's too much to deal with at the same time as dealing with semi-illiterates like Tom Fox and conspiracy theorists like KC Elbows.

If any of you want to start a new thread about my travel plans, or my blue belt, or musicians, or about gay man-sex, etc go ahead. I'll answer in the new thread. But right now we need to keep this on track.

Keeping up with Rudy's inevitable ducking of Anthony is all I will discuss on this thread.

[1bad65]

You are picking at straws.

And using your words to do it. ;)



As for the second, me changing the date has more to do with accommodating the promoter than anything else. And now the date is set.

So it's his fault it's now been THREE different dates? You really might not change it again, but only because you will have another excuse to use.


So whats left for you is to salvage the little attention you're getting here by stirring **** that doesn't even have any meaning

What's left for you to salvage of any credability you have left is for you to show up FOR ONCE as you say you will and actually fight.



As usual, I have posted questions to you that you cannot answer.

Even though you are the one with a fight date looming, go ahead and ask away. But stay on topic. :)

[Fox]

LOL@mr emo chicken wanting to stay on topic. He can not give an answer to K.C. when it comes to wanting a name. Please give me a break, when you come to a forum and know knothing about it, just to rash talk someone you yourself do not have any investment in. I could be wrong ,you might be getting paid.

[Mr Punch]

...conspiracy theorists like KC Elbows.This has nothing to do Abel, but you really are a little punkass b!tch scumbag aren't you?

You supposedly apologize to KC for making up bs about him and then you're on his back for some other unfounded sh!t in the next breath.

[SifuAbel]

.............. go ahead and ask away. But stay on topic. :)

Am I tripping? Am I in another dimension? Or did Mr. Chicken just ask me to repeat the same questions again as if I didn't just already do that?

LOL@ this fine Bird talking about credibility.

[Fox]

Am I tripping? Am I in another dimension? Or did Mr. Chicken just ask me to repeat the same questions again as if I didn't just already do that?

LOL@ this fine Bird talking about credibility.

Yep, that would be chicken little..LOL
He tends to forget and does not answer questions when asked.
He wants me to give you 0 credibility, then he gets all ****y when you ask for proof.

[1bad65]

Am I tripping? Am I in another dimension? Or did Mr. Chicken just ask me to repeat the same questions again as if I didn't just already do that?

If you want the answer, ask the question again please.

My head is still spinning trying to keep up with these hourly fight date changes!



We will see who has credability on Sept 29th Sept 28th Oct 1st

[1bad65]

There are some interesting things going on. I'm awaiting confirmation before I post about them. ;)


What could it be??? :D

[SifuAbel]

Your sex change operation is covered by blue Cross?!?!?

[1bad65]

Your sex change operation is covered by blue Cross?!?!?

At least I was born with a set of balls. You obviously were not. And when Sept 29th Sept 28th Oct 1st rolls around, you yourself will prove it.

[1bad65]

I have plans to post some VERY INTERESTING news soon. I just need something confirmed and then the shoe will fall. ;)


Do you want to 'fess up' now Mr Duck, or do I need to post the information myself? :)

[jmd161]

You know where to find me. And according to YOUR OWN RULES, you travel to me. If you come down, you'll be the next 50-something idiot to get whipped by a BJJ blue belt!


You just can't stop bringing up that petty blue belt, huh?!?! :confused:

Everyone fear my basic level understanding of the basic level of basic Bjj:rolleyes:



As for the blue belt comment, I was asked for my MA experience. I posted that I am a blue belt under Rolles Gracie, and that I train boxing and MT also. I was in no way bragging.!


In the quote above this one, I don't see anyone asking you about your meaningless blue bonnet.:rolleyes:

When you get a purple or brown belt, then maybe then we might give you some props, but in your case, I think your nutt riding will always insure you gets no props!







jeff:)

[sanjuro_ronin]

One or more of you did. Its a fact.

Dude, seriously, not only did I warn John and Omar about it being a lose-lose situation, I used "insider info" to tell them what was being "planned" and as I recall, you ALL ignored it and decided that making fools of themselves was a better option than taking the high road and NOT playing BS games.

If that equals backstabbing in yours or anybody's else world all I have to say is I am glad I live in mine.

[rogue]

Do you think 1bad65 thinks about Rudy as he falls asleep at night? The guy seems a little obsessive.

[Fox]

Dude, seriously, not only did I warn John and Omar about it being a lose-lose situation, I used "insider info" to tell them what was being "planned" and as I recall, you ALL ignored it and decided that making fools of themselves was a better option than taking the high road and NOT playing BS games.

If that equals backstabbing in yours or anybody's else world all I have to say is I am glad I live in mine.

I realize you were trying to help, but you did tell them to post the vid as well. This thread and several others on different forums would not exist, if that vid had not been posted. My wife informed crissy it was a bad move. It was to late though.
IMHO that vid caused more problems then it was worth.

[1bad65]

I received confirmation. I will be posting the latest news in the saga of Rudy's upcoming ducking.

However, I'm gonna give The Duck some time to come clean. I will post the info some time this morning though and then everyone here can make of it what they will.

It's quite interesting....

[sanjuro_ronin]

I realize you were trying to help, but you did tell them to post the vid as well. This thread and several others on different forums would not exist, if that vid had not been posted. My wife informed crissy it was a bad move. It was to late though.
IMHO that vid caused more problems then it was worth.

The video NEEDED to be posted, at the time I was told there was "another" video in BS possesion, that may have turned out to be untrue, nevertheless, it had to be done in case it was true.
The video caused many problems yes, problem that would have arisen anways, eventually.
I have been critiqued because of my "overly harsh" critique of John's behavior ( notice I said behavior and not performance), so be it, I stand by it for many reasons, reasons I made clear before.
Was John owned and beaten by Osiris? No, he beat himself by allowing himself to get in a lose-lose situation.
He should have know better, especially since many people had made it clear that it was a lose-lose situation for all of them.

If that makes me a backstabber, even though I was his biggest supporter and defender on more than one site, so be it.

As for Rudy, I have no doubt in Rudy's fight ability, I have been around enough to know skill when I see it from his clips, if he feels that I backstabbed him to, in what regards I have no idea, fine then.

[1bad65]

As for Rudy, I have no doubt in Rudy's fight ability, I have been around enough to know skill when I see it from his clips,...


Too bad you will not get see him in action.

You seem level-headed. Wait until the big news comes out today....

[OsirisBJJ]

Dude, seriously, not only did I warn John and Omar about it being a lose-lose situation, I used "insider info" to tell them what was being "planned" and as I recall, you ALL ignored it and decided that making fools of themselves was a better option than taking the high road and NOT playing BS games.

Liar. There is no such insider info. JFS knew I'd be there. I told him that. Aside from that, there was no plan.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Liar. There is no such insider info. JFS knew I'd be there. I told him that. Aside from that, there was no plan.

BS, and you know that, this was all set-up to make them look like fools.
Anthony back out of the challenge to Omar and Kat taking over, like any guy would look good beating a girl, and you showing up with all your history wih john, amazing how when YOU where to fight him you never showed, but when it was about someone else, there you were.

Liar? **** you and the horse that ass rapes you every night.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

mazing how when YOU where to fight him you never showed, but when it was about someone else, there you were.

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Not to mention he waited for the opportunity to jump him from behind......

[sanjuro_ronin]

mazing how when YOU where to fight him you never showed, but when it was about someone else, there you were.

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Not to mention he waited for the opportunity to jump him from behind......

That is irrelevant.

[OsirisBJJ]

BS, and you know that, this was all set-up to make them look like fools.
Anthony back out of the challenge to Omar and Kat taking over, like any guy would look good beating a girl, and you showing up with all your history wih john, amazing how when YOU where to fight him you never showed, but when it was about someone else, there you were.

So? It was just more convenient. Even if it weren't, its customary to bring someone else, at least to carry your ass home, to the hospital, etc.


Not to mention he waited for the opportunity to jump him from behind......

Actually, I waited for him to attack Kat, which Springer's camp admits to on his board. Springer knew who I was, could clearly see me standing around with my shirt off and STILL decided that he wanted to attack her. Thats just poor tactical planning.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A View Post
mazing how when YOU where to fight him you never showed, but when it was about someone else, there you were.

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Not to mention he waited for the opportunity to jump him from behind......


That is irrelevan

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How so? He wouldn't fight him head on, but later resorted to jumping him from behind?

[Anthony_ATT]

BS, and you know that, this was all set-up to make them look like fools.
Anthony back out of the challenge to Omar and Kat taking over, like any guy would look good beating a girl, and you showing up with all your history wih john, amazing how when YOU where to fight him you never showed, but when it was about someone else, there you were.

Liar? **** you and the horse that ass rapes you every night.

What challenge from Omar? Omar challenged me? When did that apple bottomed kung fu master challenge me, I call bull****, provide proof.

As it stands, Rudy can't even ****ing setup a ****up in a brewery, with his cluster**** for a challenge fight.

What the **** happened to you Paul? You proved a point when you left Bullshido for "Not suffering fools", and then you find yourself with the likes of JFS. Another one of those Kung Fu Masters you thought had skill. In what tantamounts to women beating, and being a ***** when loosing a fight.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Actually, I waited for him to attack Kat, which Springer's camp admits to on his board. Springer knew who I was, could clearly see me standing around with my shirt off and STILL decided that he wanted to attack her. Thats just poor tactical planning.

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It was well over by the time you did it, and she was 10+ feet away. Yo waited till his back was turned. If you really were the super hero you make yourself out to be, then you would have done it while he was still on her and could see you comming....IE BEFORE he turned.

You waited untill he turned THEN jumped him....the fact that it was done and over didn't matter to you. You just wanted the coward's shot at him.

[Anthony_ATT]

Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A View Post
mazing how when YOU where to fight him you never showed, but when it was about someone else, there you were.

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Not to mention he waited for the opportunity to jump him from behind......


That is irrelevan

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How so? He wouldn't fight him head on, but later resorted to jumping him from behind?

Yeah it worked so good, he fell on his ass.

Did you miss the part where Osiris double legged JFS and mounted him?

Or does the Kool aid block that nasty part of the video out for you?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Yeah it worked so good, he fell on his ass.

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Because his Jumps side kick sux.


I saw the whole thing. Big deal, he double legged him. All that says is Springer's anti take down skills suck. Who cares. That guy was a moron too.

[OsirisBJJ]

It was well over by the time you did it, and she was 10+ feet away. Yo waited till his back was turned. If you really were the super hero you make yourself out to be, then you would have dome it while he was on her and could see you comming....IE BEFORE he turned.

Watch the tape. You can see that I'm pretty **** far away. As soon as he did it I ran over and didn't stop, using the momentum for a horrible flying kick. Whether or not he'd aborted his attack wasn't a concern of mine. He'd been escalating all day and just escalated to credible threats of serious bodily harm and an actual assault. Thats not a situation that can go unchecked.

[Anthony_ATT]

I saw the whole thing. Big deal, he double legged him. All that says is Springer's anti take down skills suck. Who cares. That guy was a moron too.

Anti take down. BBBBBBBBBBBBBHBHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

One of your kind, a Kung Fu Master, who taught the dreaded Anti - Grapple and got paid for it, exposed as Bullshido online, and then proven in real life by Osiris.

Yeah, Big Deal. Maybe not to you, you drink from the same batch of Orange flavored drink.

[OsirisBJJ]

the fact that it was done and over didn't matter to you.

No, it really didn't. Not in the least.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Well, when you are the violent type, I guess not. More mature individuals would have just stepped between them, and ushered her out of the vicinity...and much sooner that that I might add.

You were looking for an excuse to jump the guy like a coward with a sneak attack, and did so at the soonest opportunity.

The video was all over the place, and you cannot change what happened, everyone saw the clip.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A View Post
mazing how when YOU where to fight him you never showed, but when it was about someone else, there you were.

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Not to mention he waited for the opportunity to jump him from behind......


That is irrelevan

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How so? He wouldn't fight him head on, but later resorted to jumping him from behind?

See Osiris post on how irrelevant his "surprise attack" was.

[1bad65]

Anthony and Osiris:

Please take the JFS/Omar humiliation to the JFS thread located here:

http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=782480&highlight=realize#post782480


By Rudy and his followers getting you two discuss JFS, etc here they are pulling your strings. They are trying to take the focus OFF OF RUDY AND HIS UPCOMING DUCKING.

Please, keep this thread on focus. Anthony, you know what info I am going to post here and what it's gonna mean. Don't let BIG NEWS like that get swallowed up by Rudy's buddies trying to muddy the waters.

Thanks.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Anti take down. BBBBBBBBBBBBBHBHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

One of your kind, a Kung Fu Master, who taught the dreaded Anti - Grapple and got paid for it, exposed as Bullshido online, and then proven in real life by Osiris.

Yeah, Big Deal. Maybe not to you, you drink from the same batch of Orange flavored drink.

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LOL!! This is why Bullshido has no credibility...while you profess anti takedowns don't exist, guys like Chuck Lidell use them ALLL THE TIME in the ring!!!

[Anthony_ATT]

Anti take down. BBBBBBBBBBBBBHBHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

One of your kind, a Kung Fu Master, who taught the dreaded Anti - Grapple and got paid for it, exposed as Bullshido online, and then proven in real life by Osiris.

Yeah, Big Deal. Maybe not to you, you drink from the same batch of Orange flavored drink.

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LOL!! This is why Bullshido has no credibility...while you profess anti takedowns don't exist, guys like Chuck Lidell use them ALLL THE TIME in the ring!!!

You f*cking moron. It's not anti grapple you dense idiot, it's called grappling. Chuck Liddell is a wrestler, and a purple belt in BJJ.

You have no credibility because you are an idiot who talks out your ass with wrong information.

[sanjuro_ronin]

What challenge from Omar? Omar challenged me? When did that apple bottomed kung fu master challenge me, I call bull****, provide proof.

As it stands, Rudy can't even ****ing setup a ****up in a brewery, with his cluster**** for a challenge fight.

What the **** happened to you Paul? You proved a point when you left Bullshido for "Not suffering fools", and then you find yourself with the likes of JFS. Another one of those Kung Fu Masters you thought had skill. In what tantamounts to women beating, and being a ***** when loosing a fight.

I believe YOU challenged him, no?

My views on John's behaviour is well documented, hence I am no longer "a friend".
As for what happend to me, its a long story though I may also add that I was surprised to see you "associating" with the likes of Shuma, considering your past history...

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Anthony and Osiris:

Please take the JFS/Omar humiliation to the JFS thread located here:

http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ize#post782480


By Rudy and his followers getting you two discuss JFS, etc here they are pulling your strings. They are trying to take the focus OFF OF RUDY AND HIS UPCOMING DUCKING.

Please, keep this thread on focus. Anthony, you know what info I am going to post here and what it's gonna mean. Don't let BIG NEWS like that get swallowed up by Rudy's buddies trying to muddy the waters.

Thanks.

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Uhmm Numb Nuts, THIS thread is about the JFS/Omar Annatrocity debacle. By going back to it, they are actually getting back on topic.

[OsirisBJJ]

Yeh RD, I'm the violent type. Thats why I beat JFS senseless when I had the chance, jumped out of the car when he sucker punched me, and had my friends jump him. Yeh, I'm a total brute.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

You f*cking moron. It's not anti grapple you dense idiot, it's called grappling. Chuck Liddell is a wrestler, and a purple belt in BJJ.

You have no credibility because you are an idiot who talks out your ass with wrong information.

Re read what I said....I specifically used the term "ANTI TAKEDOWN"...it was Anthony who used the words Anti grapple. I was just replying to him.

[Anthony_ATT]

I believe YOU challenged him, no?

My views on John's behaviour is well documented, hence I am no longer "a friend".
As for what happend to me, its a long story though I may also add that I was surprised to see you "associating" with the likes of Shuma, considering your past history...

No I did not.

As for Shuma, and Aeso, and even Hedgehogey, you remember right how I felt about them. But once I understood what they were trying to do, albeit the wrong way, it all made sense. To this day, I do not agree with anything they did, but once they understood their boundaries, they have made Bullshido's grappling boards some of the best on the internet.

It's always been one of those things in life that I wanted closure with you about. You left so quickly, and we didn't have much time to really talk about things.

[Anthony_ATT]

You f*cking moron. It's not anti grapple you dense idiot, it's called grappling. Chuck Liddell is a wrestler, and a purple belt in BJJ.

You have no credibility because you are an idiot who talks out your ass with wrong information.

Re read what I said....I specifically used the term "ANTI TAKEDOWN"...it was Anthony who used the words Anti grapple. I was just replying to him.

Anti grapple, anti takedown, it doesn't ****ing matter what you want to call it, it's called grappling.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Yeh RD, I'm the violent type. Thats why I beat JFS senseless when I had the chance, jumped out of the car when he sucker punched me, and had my friends jump him. Yeh, I'm a total brute.

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You were probably too dizzy to do anything.

[Anthony_ATT]

Yeh RD, I'm the violent type. Thats why I beat JFS senseless when I had the chance, jumped out of the car when he sucker punched me, and had my friends jump him. Yeh, I'm a total brute.

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You were probably too dizzy to do anything.

You are a bonafide moron.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Anti take down is a specific grappling skill...where you focus on skills that keep your opponent from taking you down.

Anti grappling on the other hand really does not exist. It's just grappling.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

You are a bonafide moron.

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Considering the source, I'm not in the least bit insulted.

[Anthony_ATT]

Anti take down is a specific grappling skill...where you focus on skills that keep your opponent from taking you down.

Anti grappling on the other hand really does not exist. It's just grappling.

There is no such thing. It is grappling. You have offense and defense.

Please learn it.

[Anthony_ATT]

You are a bonafide moron.

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Considering the source, I'm not in the least bit insulted.

Oh, I am rubber you are glue, what you say bounce off me and stick on you.

I'm impressed, you must be one of the gifted kung fu guys who got special ribbons and trophies and **** with your sash, right?

[Anthony_ATT]

So let's get this back on track.

Rudy Abel has changed the date on me 3 times.

Rudy has changd the venue on me 2 times.

Rudy cannot provide me with the waiver, so I must travel down to Miami to get it.

Only problem is this...

The phone number of the gym doesn't work, it's disconnected.

I find another phone number.

I've called it 3 times, and each time the message tells me... We will be open in April...

No one to answer the phone, no way of knowing when it's open, and no way of getting the waiver.

F*ck, how are we gonna fight if that place isn't open till April?

Rudy hasn't fulfilled one thing at all in his challenge match.

NOT ONE THING.

[1bad65]

Considering the source, I'm not in the least bit insulted.


That source is Anthony, who your little buddy Rudy will be ducking. Wait and see who the moron is....

[OsirisBJJ]

The bottom line Ronin, is that JFS and a lot of other people, including yourself, guessed wrong. By putting together a lot of outdated, second hand and just plain misinterpreted info, you and your little group had convinced yourselves that you had a 135lb coward with little grappling skill, no striking skill that was at home ****ting his pants. That you did that to yourselves isn't my fault, especially since Springer knew I'd be there. There was no plan to make him look bad. I was honestly surprised that he walked up, called Kat a **** and launched into a 20 min tirade of verbal abuse. No ****ing way did we plan on him being that crazy or out of control. Springer was in control and he took it to where it went.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

No, I do a small family style, no ranks, sashs or any of that stuff. I have had too many different private teachers. I reall7 don't follow the whole commercial school belt/sash ranking mentality. I think it's dumb, and in this world meaningless.

[1bad65]

And so it goes!!!!

This was posted:


I'm confused and don't have several hours to read the whole thread:

without speculating as to whether Rudy and Anthony are actually going to fight, has
a) a venue been decided?
b) a date set?
c) a waiver sent / signed / returned?


The Duck answered:


Yes to all.


He lied, AGAIN

Here is the phone number:

305-949-4440

Try it yourselves and see who is lying! I called this morning and sure enough, I got the 'we will be opening in April' message!

So Mr Duck, why did you lie about the venue being chosen and the waiver being picked up?

Let's just see how this all plays out... :D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I was honestly surprised that he walked up, called Kat a **** and launched into a 20 min tirade of verbal abuse. No ****ing way did we plan on him being that crazy or out of control. Springer was in control and he took it to where it went.

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Like I said, Springer was a moron too...certainly the most colorful one. There wasn't anyone there worthy of any respect.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

He lied, AGAIN

Here is the phone number:

305-949-4440

Try it yourselves and see who is lying! I called this morning and sure enough, I got the 'we will be opening in April' message!

So Mr Duck, why did you lie about the venue being chosen and the waiver being picked up?

Let's just see how this all plays out...

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Maybe they are using it before it is officially open?

[OsirisBJJ]

My point isn't that he's a moron. My point is that that type of behavior leads to fights. That it lead to one here is hardly an example of extreme hoolaganism or machiavellian scheming. It was someone stepping as far out of bounds as possible and my reacting accordingly.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

My premis you did not act accordingly. You should have just escorted her out of the vicinity and left him there to rage alone.

Instead you decided to just be a thug about it, and make your self as low and pathetic as springer.

You can defend yourself all you want, but you aren't going to change anyone's mind.

[Anthony_ATT]

My premis you did not act accordingly. You should have just escorted her out of the vicinity and left him there to rage alone.

Instead you decided to just be a thug about it, and make your self as low and pathetic as springer.

You can defend yourself all you want, but you aren't going to change anyone's mind.

Some people only understand and fear one thing.

Springer showed his true colors when he attacked Kat, and then got his ass handed to him by Os.

Begging to be let up, but a 25 year Kung Fu master. Priceless.

[sanjuro_ronin]

The bottom line Ronin, is that JFS and a lot of other people, including yourself, guessed wrong. By putting together a lot of outdated, second hand and just plain misinterpreted info, you and your little group had convinced yourselves that you had a 135lb coward with little grappling skill, no striking skill that was at home ****ting his pants. That you did that to yourselves isn't my fault, especially since Springer knew I'd be there. There was no plan to make him look bad. I was honestly surprised that he walked up, called Kat a **** and launched into a 20 min tirade of verbal abuse. No ****ing way did we plan on him being that crazy or out of control. Springer was in control and he took it to where it went.

Considering that I had been told that you were no longer the "osiris of old" and I knew which weight division you were rolling in and so did John, no one thought a 135lbs weakling was gonna show up.
John know you were coming, great, check out the second part of the video when someoen mentions who you are and John says "which one" or somethign of the nature.

And yes, no one was more suprised than I by John's tirade or his behaviour.
For a group that didn't plan on anyhting crazy and out of control, why the gun?
Oh wait, that's right, she always drives around with a gun, on parole....

Os, I gave you props for showing up and "protecting" Kat, that is as far as it goes, I don't like you and you don't like me and I am sure we BOTH can live with that.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

And yes, no one was more suprised than I by John's tirade or his behaviour.
For a group that didn't plan on anyhting crazy and out of control, why the gun?
Oh wait, that's right, she always drives around with a gun, on parole...

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After seeing him online for years, you were surprised?

[sanjuro_ronin]

And yes, no one was more suprised than I by John's tirade or his behaviour.
For a group that didn't plan on anyhting crazy and out of control, why the gun?
Oh wait, that's right, she always drives around with a gun, on parole...

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After seeing him online for years, you were surprised?

Having exchanged emails and such over the years with the "real" John, yes I was very surprised.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I have had some phone conversations with him in the past, and although he was a genuinely nice guy to me, I could still hear the potential in his voice. He struck me as being like a biker....nicest people in the world, till you make them mad at you.

His online persona is exactly what i pictured him to be like in real life.

[OsirisBJJ]

You should have just escorted her out of the vicinity and left him there to rage alone.

Instead you decided to just be a thug about it, and make your self as low and pathetic as springer.

You're crazy man. The first thing you've got to do is show them in no uncertain terms that their behavior is impermissible and will now be allowed to continue, no matter what. And frankly, I'm not a ****ing monk. Its awesome that you think you're so cool and so understanding and all Ghandi and Mother Teresa and what not, but I'm thinking that you're not and that if I walked up and hit any of your female friends, that we'd be fighting.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I would not have let it escalate that far. last time somthing like this happened, I was between them LONG, LONG before anything physical could have erupted.

Being the coward you are, you went off and hid by the car, waited till it was already over and then jumped him when his back was turned.

If you were *Really* protecting her, then you would have been in between then trying to diffuse the situation long before it got physical.

Instead, you just stood by allowing it to escalate becasue you could see an opportunity to jump him and get away with it was developing.

You are a coward, and that is the only way you will be seen by many, many people.

[OsirisBJJ]

John know you were coming, great, check out the second part of the video when someoen mentions who you are and John says "which one" or somethign of the nature.

I'm kinda surprised. There are plenty of pics of me available and its hardly a secret that I'm good friends with Kat and Ashly. I was even wearing my gym's shirt. How he didn't know it was me, I don't know.


And yes, no one was more suprised than I by John's tirade or his behaviour.
For a group that didn't plan on anyhting crazy and out of control, why the gun?
Oh wait, that's right, she always drives around with a gun, on parole....

Dude, seriously, she rides around with an M16 in the back, and uzi under the seat and a pistol at her hip. Thats how we ran around Atlanta. I was in their house looking for a cup once and all I found in the cabinets was a beretta. Another time, when we woke up in the morning, I went into the living room to discover that we'd left the front door open with the uzi, m16 and beretta all lying in plain view next to like three air softs. There's no conspiracy. She's a gun nut with dubious judgment. Ask any of her other friends.


Os, I gave you props for showing up and "protecting" Kat, that is as far as it goes, I don't like you and you don't like me and I am sure we BOTH can live with that.

Whatever.

[1bad65]

Maybe they are using it before it is officially open?


Just keep dreaming. The Duck said the waiver had BEEN PICKED UP AND RETURNED.

HE LIED!

Why won't anyone at that gym call Anthony back? How can he go up there and retrieve a waiver from a locked, closed building? Why did The Duck fail to mention it was a gym not yet open?

Notice how The Duck has not made an appearance today. :rolleyes:

[1bad65]

Hey RD, call the number yourself. Hear the message saying it will open in April. Leave your name and number, lets see when you get a call back. :D

Or do you just wanna sit here and keep drinking the Kool-Aid?

The PROOF is here, for anyone that wants to see it.

The number again is: 305-949-4440

[OsirisBJJ]

RD, why would I step between them, to his face and NOT swing? He states on vid that he'd attack me if I said anything. That basically means that if I have to address him, I have to take him down. Why would I step in and talk?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I'm going to call Rudy first.

[1bad65]

Same goes for you too, Tom Fox. Call the number The Duck himself gave. It's 305-949-4440. Hear the message yourself.

Then take your semi-illiterate self up to the store. Buy some of those Bounty double-ply, triple-weave, super absorbent paper towels, and some astringent. You'll need it to clean all the egg of the faces of you and that wife of yours when your little buddy ducks Anthony. :D

I warned you two what was gonna happen. Now we have PROOF that Anthony is telling the truth and that The Duck is lying, AGAIN.

[1bad65]

I'm going to call Rudy first.

Denial is a powerful thing.

What are you afraid of? Call it yourself, you don't need The Duck to hold your hand.

Again it's: 305-949-4440

[Anthony_ATT]

What's that sound?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CGEnKh0ocb0

[1bad65]

Right now The Duck is scrambling to deal with the latest news. See, he has a problem: ducking the fight, that's no big deal. He's great at that. The trick is that he has to not only duck the fight, but he has to do it in a way where he can blame Anthony and save face.

That's where his problem lies. :D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Did you leave a message?

How about go there? Rudy says it's a private club, and there are trainers there all day.

[1bad65]

Did you get ahold of The Duck yet, RD?


Notice that not only is The Duck laying low, but Tom Fox is absent too. Maybe he is out buying those paper towels! ;)


Again, the number to the yet-to-open gym is: 305-949-4440

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Maybe the gym does not exist?

I have a good idea, since you are close, grab your camera and go to the address. Film the school, and that is it not open and put it up on Youtube for all to see.

[1bad65]

Did you leave a message?

How about go there? Rudy says it's a private club, and there are trainers there all day.


I did not leave a message. Anthony did, and since they still have not called him back I did not want to create more backlog for them. ;)

Funny how The Duck neglected to tell ANYONE that it's private! Private or not, the message says they are gonna open in APRIL.

And remember, he said that Anthony had picked, signed, and returned the waiver. HE LIED.

[1bad65]

Maybe the gym does not exist?

I have a good idea, since you are close, grab your camera and go to the address. Film the school, and that is it not open and put it up on Youtube for all to see.

Are you serious!!! No way, you have to be trolling. Dude, if The Duck gives out, by your own admission, a fake gym as the venue, he is ducking. There is no other way to spin it.

I live in Austin, nowhere near Miami. Your geography skills are about as good as Tom Fox's reading comprehension skills.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

April is long gone, maybe they are open already?

[Anthony_ATT]

Maybe the gym does not exist?

I have a good idea, since you are close, grab your camera and go to the address. Film the school, and that is it not open and put it up on Youtube for all to see.

Close? That's an hour drive from where I am. I'm not wasting 2 hours of my life to find out the place isn't even open.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Send Anthony with a camera then, he's close, right?

[Anthony_ATT]

April is long gone, maybe they are open already?

What type of crap business doesn't change their phone message?

Especially one that is supposed to be open?

Give it a break.

[1bad65]

April is long gone, maybe they are open already?


Or it's a long way away. ;) They won't return Anthony's messages. They have no webpage. Get real.

Are you excessively loyal or are you excessively stupid?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Do it with a camera, then film the closed gym and post it on Youtube to prove he's ducking you then. It would be worth it for that alone.

If you are not willing to do that, then you are ducking the fight,, not Rudy.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

What type of crap business doesn't change their phone message?

Especially one that is supposed to be open?

Give it a break.

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It's not a business open to the public, it's a private club owned by some rich guy.

There are people there all day, just go there with your camera and film yourself picking up the waiver.

[1bad65]

And remember, it's The Duck's responsibility to find a venue and get Anthony the waiver. When did it become Anthony's job to drive out there? If this gym is really gonna let The Duck have his Kung-Fu Death Match there, he must know them. Have him call them and tell them to call Anthony.

Hey Duck, can you give us this 'promoter' guy's phone number? You know, SOMETHING that actually checks out.

[1bad65]

Do it with a camera, then film the closed gym and post it on Youtube to prove he's ducking you then. It would be worth it for that alone.

If you are not willing to do that, then you are ducking the fight,, not Rudy.

Jesus Christ, were you on the OJ jury by chance? You either a troll or a delusional moron. Which is it....

[1bad65]

It's not a business open to the public, it's a private club owned by some rich guy.



Did you actually type that with a straight face?

[Anthony_ATT]

Actually, the place has a website.

http://www.actionfitnessfl.net/index.html

Try calling it's 866 number at the top left.

It says it's open, but no one answers the phone.

What a joke. Figures coming from Rudy.

[Anthony_ATT]

Do it with a camera, then film the closed gym and post it on Youtube to prove he's ducking you then. It would be worth it for that alone.

If you are not willing to do that, then you are ducking the fight,, not Rudy.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

I'm ducking the fight?!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Is this the gym you guys are supposed to fight at?


http://www.actionfitnessfl.net/index.html

http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#lon=-80.217361&lat=26.093788&mag=8

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Yup, you are ducking the fight. It's right there, 40 minutes from you, the waiver is waiting and you aren't going to go get it.

You are the duck.

[Anthony_ATT]

Yup, you are ducking the fight. It's right there, 40 minutes from you, the waiver is waiting and you aren't going to go get it.

You are the duck.

You must be insane. 40 minutes from me? You know where I live f*cktard? To travel to a place who's main phone number is disconnected, and it's "second" number no one answers and says they will be open in April?

Keep drinking that kool aid.

[1bad65]

From: http://www.actionfitnessfl.net/index.html


"Action Fitness is the name to know when you are interested in getting in shape quickly. Conveniently located right off US1, our exciting new business is proud to provide you with a rock-climbing wall, boxing ring, new state of the art equipment, plus in-home personal training and fitness programs."

"Contact us in North Miami Beach, Florida, for nutritional information or to sign up for our personal training and fitness programs."


Can you show me where it says ANYTHING about being a 'private club' that is 'not open to the public'?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Can you show me where it's not open?

Anthony, Go get the waiver, or admit your planing on ducking the fight.

[Anthony_ATT]

Can you show me where it's not open?

Anthony, Go get the waiver, or admit your planing on ducking the fight.

You must be on crack. I've flown across the country to fight MMA and get my ass kicked.

Rudy on the other hand:

1. Promised me waiver 3 months ago. Last week said waiver would be emailed to me, wait now I have to go get it.

2. Changed the date from the 29th, to the 28th, to October 1st.

3. Has given me a venue who's main number is disconnected.

Yeah, I'm ducking because I'm not driving 2 hours of my day to go to a place that is not open.

You are an idiot.

[1bad65]

Rd, I'm done with you. I'll still stay on The Duck however. Your trying to muddy the waters, again.

Bottom line: The Duck is esponsible for the venue. The phone number he gave is not being answered. It is not Anthony's responsibility to disprove Rudy, it's Rudy's job to prove he set up a venue and drafted a waiver.

[1bad65]

While this is all fun and all, the big question remains:

Where in the world is Rudy 'The Duck' Abel? :D

[SifuAbel]

Lord!!! just when you think It couldn't get any stupider .

Listen, you fat ****tard, How the heck else were you going to get the waiver?

You gotta GO THERE anyways.

Are you so desperate to find a way out that you won't go and then use the phone number as an excuse? I gave you the correct phone number.

Thats ridiculous.

Go get the ****ing waiver. What do you expect is going to happen? Someone is going to pop out of a box and yell "fooled ya"?!?!?

You're not that important. Its not like Chick Liddel is calling. The place is his personal playground. If he doesn't return your call its because he doesn't have time for a peon like you in between his celebrity clients or his other promotions.

You are going to look VERY stupid when the time comes and I film myself at "the place that doesn't exist" with the "people that don't work there."

man up, boy.

[1bad65]

Its the 29th! No, the 28th! No, the 1st! Now change the venue a few more times, now pull some bull**** with the waiver! The great ducking machine wheels are already set in motion...


We may have a winner..... ;)

[1bad65]

Why hello there Mr Duck!

Care to give us SOMETHING that checks out? Anything?

So why are they not returning calls? Why does their message say they open in April? Why is RD saying it's not open to the public?

Your last message was not up to par with your usual excuses. Your losing a step ;) You can do better, just keep practicing. :D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

According to the website, they are open, and you just said they have a working number.

Call, ask for the guy and have them fax you the waiver.

If it was me, I'd go grab my camera, and go film the place being closed just to have evidence to back my position. Then if I am wrong, I would just pick up the waiver while I was there.

You are trying to weasel out of this fight, admit it.

Just back out now, and walk away, because you know darn well, Rudy is going to be there, he's going to film the venue, inside and out, and he's going to have himself filmed that he's waiting for you and you didn't show.

You might as well save yourself that embarrassment by officially backing out now and admitting you are scared to fight him.

[1bad65]

I gave you the correct phone number.


Actually the first number you gave him was disconnected. :rolleyes:

[1bad65]

Something else Mr Duck.

If Anthony does call and someone answers, who is he to ask for? Or does the entire staff know about the Oct 1st fight planned at their gym?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Seems to be working now ehy?

[Anthony_ATT]

Lord!!! just when you think It couldn't get any stupider .

Listen, you fat ****tard, How the heck else were you going to get the waiver?

You gotta GO THERE anyways.

Are you so desperate to find a way out that you won't go and then use the phone number as an excuse? I gave you the correct phone number.

Thats ridiculous.

Go get the ****ing waiver. What do you expect is going to happen? Someone is going to pop out of a box and yell "fooled ya"?!?!?

You're not that important. Its not like Chick Liddel is calling. The place is his personal playground. If he doesn't return your call its because he doesn't have time for a peon like you in between his celebrity clients or his other promotions.

You are going to look VERY stupid when the time comes and I film myself at "the place that doesn't exist" with the "people that don't work there."

man up, boy.

You sad f*ck, you can't even come up with an original post, sounds just like the PM's I was sending to you.

I told your ass I don't need a waiver, or a f*cking ring. You wouldn't "Man Up" to it.

Let's revisit Rudy Abel the f@ggot coward again, shall we?

1. Promised a waiver from his school lawyer 3 months ago.
FAILED - Never Happened.

2. Promised a waiver to be emailed to me over a week ago.
FAILED - Never Happened

3. Set up fight 3 months ago at his Teacher's school as the venue.
FAILED - Stopped talking about it and eventually dropped it with no reason.

4. Date was set for the 29th.
FAILED - After 2.5 months, date is no longer good.

5. Date was set for the 28th
FAILED - After accepting this date, his promoter friend is "travelling" and now it's Oct 1st.

6. New Venue picked, celeberity clients and myself can't call the school because their main phone number is disconnected.
FAILED - It doesn't take the stench to know that Rudy is full of sh1t, and doesn't want this to happen. One thing after another to get him pinned down to fight, and it's always Rudy f*cking something up.

Now I'm backing out because I don't want to drive an hour both ways to pick up a waiver to a place I don't know is open on the weekend.

Please Rudy the Coward, get a grip.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Hey, if you really want to fight, go get the waiver.

If you *Really* want to fight, but believe Rudy is playing games with you, grab your camera, go there and film a closed gym, or film yourself trying to get a waiver that does not exist.

If you can't do that, then you don't intend to fight anyway.

I mean, if you can't drive across town to get the waiver, how can anyone expect you to drive there for the actual fight?

[SifuAbel]

How funny, now that I've gone to the trouble of setting up a legitimate fight you fall back on "lets go to the street".

Ironically, I originally I received a whole bunch of crap from your camp about making this a street fight to begin with.

Thats sounds like the faining whimper of desperate man.

Show up or shut up.

Give me your fax number.

[Anthony_ATT]

Just called again, great messsage.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

In all the time you have been ducking this, you could have just gone there already and been back.

[1bad65]

Give me your fax number.


For God's sake, not this excuse again!

[Anthony_ATT]

How funny, now that I've gone to the trouble of setting up a legitimate fight you fall back on "lets go to the street".

Ironically, I originally I received a whole bunch of crap from your camp about making this a street fight to begin with.

Thats sounds like the faining whimper of desperate man.

Show up or shut up.

Give me your fax number.

Oh f*ck you c0cksucker. You had diddly 2 weeks ago when I was on your ass to get this done. 1Bad has been hounding you on this board to get it done.

I wanted this fight, ring or no ring. I gave you as much rope to hang yourself, which you did splendidly.

Fax number 954-341-5064

I'll check it by 8pm tonight. Make sure it's there Coward, I'm tired of your excuses.

[1bad65]

Fax number 954-341-5064


Don't hold your breath.

You watch, when you post that you have not recieved it, we will get some story of how the Loch Ness Monster broke into the building and stole their fax machine.

[jmd161]

Did I miss something?


I've seen that video, but I have yet to see in that crappy clip anyone getting their arse whooped... I saw a crappy sorry arse flying jumping something that was supposed to be a kick, i'm told. Followed by a average at best dbl leg take down, I really saw nothing special about it.... Then I saw a little holding on and they were seperated, sorry no arse whooping in what I saw.

But I see people posting that this Objj guy kicked his arse I must be looking at the wrong clip?:confused:



I see anal got the whole nutt riding click to come over now, great, just great:rolleyes:

As if we needed more of him and his crap!

jeff:)

[Lucas]

Did I miss something?


I've seen that video, but I have yet to see in that crappy clip anyone getting their arse whooped... I saw a crappy sorry arse flying jumping something that was supposed to be a kick, i'm told. Followed by a average at best dbl leg take down, I really saw nothing special about it.... Then I saw a little holding on and they were seperated, sorry no arse whooping in what I saw.

But I see people posting that this Objj guy kicked his arse I must be looking at the wrong clip?:confused:



I see anal got the whole nutt riding click to come over now, great, just great:rolleyes:

As if we needed more of him and his crap!

jeff:)

im of the same opinion as you. if that was a fight.....ive been in tougher (and bloodier) on a 6th grade playground when i was a little child, surely some grown men can do some real damage.

[jmd161]

Oh f*ck you c0cksucker. You had diddly 2 weeks ago when I was on your ass to get this done. 1Bad has been hounding you on this board to get it done.

I wanted this fight, ring or no ring. I gave you as much rope to hang yourself, which you did splendidly.

Fax number 954-341-5064

I'll check it by 8pm tonight. Make sure it's there Coward, I'm tired of your excuses.


You know, I'm not the smartest person in the world, but there's no way you could be 40 mins away from miami with a 954 area code. If that is your fax number you're lying about your where abouts...954 is broward county.


You're lying bro! you're not too far away to pick up the wavier with a 954 area code. I'm from miami and worked in Broward County for over 15 yrs I know the area and codes too well.

You need some routes to get you to the area?

You can take I95 from anywhere in Broward County and be in the heart of Miami within 20 mins. Or take the Turnpike in Broward to the Golden Glades interchange even faster. You can take I75 if you're out west in Broward Hell, you can drive down US 441 with lights and all and still reach Miami in less than 40 mins:rolleyes:

Not to mention there's also University drive :confused:


jeff:)

[Anthony_ATT]

You know, I'm not the smartest person in the world, but there's no way you could be 40 mins away from miami with a 954 area code. If that is your fax number you're lying about your where abouts...954 is broward county.


You're lying bro! you're not too far away to pick up the wavier with a 954 area code. I'm from miami and worked in Broward County for over 15 yrs I know the area and codes too well.


jeff:)

Yeah, like I'd give my personal fax number out on a message board.

My bad Rudy, Address the Fax to Anthony from Bullshido.

Ta.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

He does not want to fight, and figured picking on Rudy would be a good way to make himself look good because Rudy did not go through with a challenge during his knee injury.

Now that it looks like everything is ready to go, he's desperately trying to get out of it and make it seem to be Rudy's fault, when Anthony never intended to fight in the first place.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I think Rudy should just post the waiver on the forums.

[1bad65]

I think Rudy should just post the waiver on the forums.


Don't hold your breath.

[TaiChiBob]

Greetings..


im of the same opinion as you. if that was a fight.....ive been in tougher (and bloodier) on a 6th grade playground when i was a little child, surely some grown men can do some real damage.
That's the real problem.. this looks like a bunch of 6th graders yammering about nothing.. this whole thread is an embarassment to MA of any sort.. Where's Gene?

This forum is spiraling downward faster than GWB's ratings..:(

Be well..

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I think Rudy should just post the waiver on the forums.

Don't hold your breath.

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That would solve all the issues.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

That's the real problem.. this looks like a bunch of 6th graders yammering about nothing.. this whole thread is an embarassment to MA of any sort.. Where's Gene?

This forum is spiraling downward faster than GWB's ratings..

Be well..

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It's all in good fun...at least from my end anyway.

Ultimatly, the fight will never happen, and the boards will go on, and on about it forever.

And if it does happen, the same thing will occur.

[1bad65]

That would solve all the issues.


Then he would just come up with new ones.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Like what?

The date is already set, all Anthony needs to do is just show up and sign the waiver now.

[1bad65]

While seeing Anthony's willingness to try and make this fight happen, I was reminded of this:



I'm trying to remove as many excuses possible for Abel to not accept the fight.



I don't think you'll be able to keep up with his ability to make new ones.


And we all know how that one ended. :rolleyes:

[jmd161]

Yeah, like I'd give my personal fax number out on a message board.

My bad Rudy, Address the Fax to Anthony from Bullshido.

Ta.



Even if it's not, I'm sure you're not too far from that area. If you were you would have used a different area code. Maybe 561? but nah you're a liar so why waste the energy.




jeff:)

[1bad65]

Like what?


Oh I don't know, maybe a knee surgery perhaps? Or a car accident, or his dog ran off, or an alien abduction, you know, that kind of stuff. It happens all the time you know. :D Rudy has just barely scratched the surface on his excuse making abilities. Just watch, he never is at a loss for an excuse. I have faith in The Duck, he's never let me down before. ;)




The date is already set, all Anthony needs to do is just show up and sign the waiver now.


Unless The Duck changes the date, AGAIN.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

While seeing Anthony's willingness to try and make this fight happen, I was reminded of this:

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What willingness to make the fight happen? He won't even drive across town to pick up the waiver!!!

[jmd161]

I'll be in Miami this weekend, I'll meet with Rudy's people and drive 40 mins where ever you are and bring the wavier?







jeff:)

[1bad65]

What willingness to make the fight happen? He won't even drive across town to pick up the waiver!!!


He gave out his fax #, didn't he? We shall see if he gets the PROMISED fax today(or ever). :cool:

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

LOL!!! I bet Anthony finds some reason to duck this one!!!!

[jmd161]

Hello?



Did they leave the forum all of the sudden or something?




jeff:)

[jmd161]

....


:confused:




jeff:)

[sanjuro_ronin]

What are you trying to do? make this fight actually happen? make it so neither party has any excuse?
What kind of sick person are you ??:D

[1bad65]

Just waiting. The Duck is supposed to send a fax today to Anthony.

We shall see, won't we?

[1bad65]

What are you trying to do? make this fight actually happen?

Well one side is.

The other side keeps changing the date, or the venue, and lying about the waiver. :rolleyes:

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I offered Rudy to have the Waiver faxed to my Efax number, so I could just post it on the forums.

I am fairly certain I have an active account over at Bullshido as well, so I would just post it there too.

[jmd161]

What are you trying to do? make this fight actually happen? make it so neither party has any excuse?
What kind of sick person are you ??:D




I knew he and Anthony would completely avoid my question, thus the 2 post over mine with no reference to my question at all:rolleyes:





jeff:)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Well one side is.

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Anthony has shown no interest in actually going through with this.

I say we all pitch in $10.00 for a limo to pick him up at his house so he has no excuse about the drive time, or any other travel issues he may come up with....he already needs the Waiver hand delivered.....

[1bad65]

I offered Rudy to have the Waiver faxed to my Efax number, so I could just post it on the forums.

I am fairly certain I have an active account over at Bullshido as well, so I would just post it there too.


What was his response?

Let me guess, your still waiting....:rolleyes:

[jmd161]

Ha Ha Ha this is so funny:D



HeY nutt rider, You didn't see my question to you or Anthony?




jeff:)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

He was going to call the guy and get it faxed to himself and do the same thing.

I don't know where it ended up, I had to hang up and take some business calls about that time.

[1bad65]

He was going to call the guy and get it faxed to himself and do the same thing.

I can spot the excuse already. :rolleyes: Can you?



I don't know where it ended up, I had to hang up and take some business calls about that time.

It won't end up here, that's for sure!

[jmd161]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:




:D




;)



jeff:)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

So um Anthony, where can Jeff hand deliver that Waiver to?

[jmd161]

I can spot the excuse already. :rolleyes: Can you?




Well, an excuse is much better than the outright rudeness of not answering at all!



jeff:)

[SifuAbel]

yawn

here's the map with directions.

Just pick it up.

http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#mvt=m&q2=15195+NE+21ST+AVE%2C+North+Miami+Beach%2C+FL%2C +33162&q1=Coral+Springs%2C+FL&trf=0&lon=-80.270405&lat=26.271559&mag=6

[1bad65]

Well, an excuse is much better....


It's a big shocker that you take Rudy's side. :D

[1bad65]

Just pick it up.


What happened to this?



Give me your fax #


Just duck now and get it over with.

[1bad65]

Duck, you asked for a fax #. You were given a fax #. What's the reason that you can't fax it? :rolleyes:

[jmd161]

So um Anthony, where can Jeff hand deliver that Waiver to?


Ok everyone,


Do we really need to continue this after I posted I would pick up the Wavier and hand deliver it to Anthony myself, only to have my question totally ignored several times?


Mind you, i'm currently in Richmond, VA and I can make it to Miami to pick up the wavier and deliver it, but it's too far for Anthony.:rolleyes:

40 mins lol


jeff:)

[jmd161]

It's a big shocker that you take Rudy's side. :D

IT'S NONE THAT YOU AVOID MY QUESTION!




jeff:)

[1bad65]

Duck, what's wrong with faxing it to him? You were asking for the fax # TODAY. He gave it to you and now you can't fax it? What gives?

Sounds alot like the date excuse. It had to be on Sept 28. There was no way it could be any other day. Once Anthony agreed to Sept 28th, you suddenly said it had to be on Oct 1st. :rolleyes:

[SifuAbel]

Thanks for offering, Jeff. I doubt he would ever let you know where to go.

But even if you did, He'd find another way to make this "about me" when the easiest thing in the world is to just go and pick it up himself.

When I get a hold of the guy(which isn't easy) I'll get that fax # out to him as soon as possible.

I have a feeling the anthony will have an "accident" before the match. Or some important porn star will arrive and he has to fluff him.

[1bad65]

IT'S NONE THAT YOU AVOID MY QUESTION!


Did you attend school with Tom Fox?



Read the **** thread. The Duck himself has said it's to be faxed e-mailed posted on Bullshido picked up at the venue.

[SifuAbel]

40 mins lol


jeff:)

LOL, right, Like people don't drive in so fla. People drive forty minutes for a cup of coffee or to get their cheese waxed.

[jmd161]

yawn

here's the map with directions.

Just pick it up.

http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#mvt=m&q2=15195+NE+21ST+AVE%2C+North+Miami+Beach%2C+FL%2C +33162&q1=Coral+Springs%2C+FL&trf=0&lon=-80.270405&lat=26.271559&mag=6



Rudy,


You're joking right?


He can't drive from Coral Springs to North Miami Beach to pick it up? You gotta be kidding me!

By the way like i stated it's Broward County, and although google maps says 39 mins you could drive there and back in that time. I should know I did it everyday when I worked at the Coral Springs Home Depot and lived in Opa Locka, just west of North Miami Beach.:rolleyes:


jeff:)

[SifuAbel]

Did you attend school with Tom Fox?

.

Oh, you mean the guy that you've been ducking, Mr. WeaselChicken?

[1bad65]

When I get a hold of the guy(which isn't easy) I'll get that fax # out to him as soon as possible.


I sure called that one!



I can spot the excuse already. Can you?


Your getting careless. :D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Rudy, have your guy fax it to you, then then you post it on the forums, fax and E-mial to it to Anthony in tripplicate, give it to Jeff to hand deliver, and give a copy to the limo driver that will inevitably have to be sent to Anthony's house to retrieve him for the fight.

[SifuAbel]

Rudy,


You're joking right?


He can't drive from Coral Springs to North Miami Beach to pick it up? You gotta be kidding me!

By the way like i stated it's Broward County, and although google maps says 39 mins you could drive there and back in that time. I should know I did it everyday when I worked at the Coral Springs Home Depot and lived in Opa Locka, just west of North Miami Beach.:rolleyes:


jeff:)


I KNOW!!!!!!! Like anybody who has lived there for more than a week would know how ridiculously short that drive is from a Miami standpoint. Maybe he is that one guy on the freeway doing the speed limit.

[1bad65]

Oh, you mean the guy that you've been ducking, Mr. WeaselChicken?


Whatever. Give him a map to my gym.

Better write it in crayon, you dont want to confuse him! :D:)

[1bad65]

Rudy, have your guy fax it to you, then then you post it on the forums, fax and E-mial to it to Anthony in tripplicate, give it to Jeff to hand deliver, and give a copy to the limo driver that will inevitably have to be sent to Anthony's house to retrieve him for the fight.


Newsflash! There is no waiver!


Were you born this stupid, or did it take years and years of practice?

[SifuAbel]

Rudy, have your guy fax it to you, then then you post it on the forums, fax and E-mial to it to Anthony in tripplicate, give it to Jeff to hand deliver, and give a copy to the limo driver that will inevitably have to be sent to Anthony's house to retrieve him for the fight.

Then I'll have it tattooed to the back of a black french girl's head like in Rush Hour 3.

[1bad65]

When I get a hold of the guy(which isn't easy) I'll get that fax # out to him as soon as possible.


You sure got ahold of him real quick the other day in order to change the date from Sept 28th to Oct 1st. :rolleyes:

[jmd161]

Thanks for offering, Jeff. I doubt he would ever let you know where to go.

But even if you did, He'd find another way to make this "about me" when the easiest thing in the world is to just go and pick it up himself.




No Problem bro, I'm done with those arse holes. To think I could fly to JFK from RIC then to FLL to deliver a wavier he couldn't drive to pick up:rolleyes:



jeff:)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Well, it's pretty clear there will be no fight now. Anthony pretty obviously wussed out if he can't even drive across town to go sign the waiver.

Good thing you backed out of our bet ehy 1bad? You'd have to wear the sig for a month otherwise!!

[SifuAbel]

Whatever. Give him a map to my gym.

Better write it in crayon, you dont want to confuse him! :D:)

for what, so he can be refused at the door.

You are not sanctioned to involve your gym in any kind of challenge, Mr. WeaselChicken. If you are, we could call and find out. You are not listed anywhere on the site. You are not an instructor, trainer, manager, or otherwise.

You're just a little puke student that has no balls.

Mike Renzo, 35, blue belt in BJJ.
Trains at South Austin Gym under Rudy Velasquez.

That means you started at 33? Yo have two whole years of experience? LMAO!!

[1bad65]

Well, it's pretty clear there will be no fight now. Anthony pretty obviously wussed out if he can't even drive across town to go sign the waiver.

Good thing you backed out of our bet ehy 1bad? You'd have to wear the sig for a month otherwise!!


We shall see. Still over 2 weeks to go.

Who keeps changing EVERYTHING? Ask yourself that....

Also, didn't Rudy say he was faxing you a copy of the waiver? What happened with that? :rolleyes:

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Also, didn't Rudy say he was faxing you a copy of the waiver? What happened with that?

Reply]
Actually no, he never said that. I got a call in the middle of that conversation and never got back to him.

[SifuAbel]

Well, it's pretty clear there will be no fight now. Anthony pretty obviously wussed out if he can't even drive across town to go sign the waiver.

Good thing you backed out of our bet ehy 1bad? You'd have to wear the sig for a month otherwise!!


LOL!! when the time comes I will be filming in the "place that doesn't exist" with the "people that don't work there."

[1bad65]

for what, so he can be refused at the door.

You are not sanctioned to involve your gym in any kind of challenge, Mr. WeaselChicken. If you are, we could call and find out. You are not listed anywhere on the site. You are not an instructor, trainer, manager, or otherwise.

You're just a little puke student that has no balls.

Mike Renzo, 35, blue belt in BJJ.
Trains at South Austin Gym under Rudy Velasquez.

That means you started at 33? Yo have two whole years of experience? LMAO!!


Last post on Fox here. From now on, start a new thread.

He will not be refused at the door. And the door is NEVER locked during business hours. Tom Fox can come in and call me out, as can you. I started MMA alot younger than 33 btw. It's Rudy Vasquez you idiot.

BTW, Osiris is a Blue Belt too, and he has trained less time than I have. As I said before, Tom can come down and be the SECOND 50-something idiot to get embarrassed by a BJJ Blue Belt.

[1bad65]

LOL!! when the time comes I will be filming in the "place that doesn't exist" with the "people that don't work there."


Who said that Duck? RD said it's a private club, closed to the public. I did ask who was the contact person or if the ENTIRE staff knew of the waiver and the Oct 1st fight scheduled there. You never did answer that....:rolleyes:

[SifuAbel]

I think Tom would grind your pathetic ass into ground beef.

Only an idiot, sycophantic, fool would pin his hopes of success on somebody else's talent.

[1bad65]

Only an idiot, sycophantic, fool would pin his hopes of success on somebody else's talent.


Like you've ever pinned your hopes on your talent. Keep dreaming.....and ducking! :D

[jmd161]

Last post on Fox here. From now on, start a new thread.

He will not be refused at the door. And the door is NEVER locked during business hours. Tom Fox can come in and call me out, as can you. I started MMA alot younger than 33 btw. It's Rudy Vasquez you idiot.

BTW, Osiris is a Blue Belt too, and he has trained less time than I have. As I said before, Tom can come down and be the SECOND 50-something idiot to get embarrassed by a BJJ Blue Belt.



He really can't help bragging about that meaningless blue belt can he? It's like the ESPN commerical where he's wearing the yellow belt talking about it's in his dojo :Dlol



jeff:)

[SifuAbel]

In TMA circles it was called green belt syndrome.

People get affiliated with a style and mentally masturbate about how great and tough they are. so stupid.

[1bad65]

Folks, I'm sorry I have bragged about my Blue Belt. It's really wrong to throw that fact around like I do.

I would be much more humble if I made sure the word 'Sifu' is in EVERY screen name I've ever had.

Again, please accept my apologies.

[1bad65]

People get affiliated with a style and mentally masturbate about how great and tough they are then they challenge BJJ/MMA guys and then they make excuses as to why they failed to fight.

Fixed that for you.

[SifuAbel]

Sorry Mr. Chicken,

But the "I'm not going to pick up a waiver because I don't believe the place exists" excuse tops all.

Making changes is not ducking a fight. It ensuring it gets done.

Sinking his head in the sand and denying its existence, however, is.

[SifuAbel]

Folks, I'm sorry I have bragged about my Blue Belt. It's really wrong to throw that fact around like I do.

I would be much more humble if I made sure the word 'Sifu' is in EVERY screen name I've ever had.

Again, please accept my apologies.

Whats wrong with the fact is that its meaningless. You being a BLUE BELT and using it like a threat is like saying you're going to shoot me with a rubber band. Big deal.

[jmd161]

Folks, I'm sorry I have bragged about my Blue Belt. It's really wrong to throw that fact around like I do.

I would be much more humble if I made sure the word 'Sifu' is in EVERY screen name I've ever had.

Again, please accept my apologies.



How clueless are you?


The title was bestowed on Rudy, he didn't give it to himself. That's an honor worth bragging about. Like getting your BJJ black belt. Not because you received the first rank:rolleyes:



jeff:)

[1bad65]

Making changes is not ducking a fight. It ensuring it gets done.


You keep telling yourself that. Considering you are the one who was just a day or so ago was fishing for a date he could not make. It went from Sept 29th, to Sept 28th, to Oct 1st IN LESS THAN ONE HOUR because of you. Your now on your SECOND venue choice. And just today you told Anthony he has to pick up the waiver, then that you will fax it to him, then that you will fax it to RD and he will post it here and at Bullshido, and now it's back again to he has to pick it up!


What stipulations has Anthony asked to change?

[1bad65]

Whats wrong with the fact is that its meaningless. You being a BLUE BELT and using it like a threat is like saying you're going to shoot me with a rubber band. Big deal.


Then getting shot with a rubber band was enough to make JFS verbally tap out. :D

[1bad65]

The title was bestowed on Rudy, he didn't give it to himself.


I'm sure his master/sifu/sensei whatever is real proud of him.

Was the guy who awarded him that title the one who honed his formidable ducking skills? :D

[1bad65]

What stipulations has Anthony asked to change?

[SifuAbel]

Whatever Mr. Chicken,

You can keep preening like a red light hooker all you want. The date, time and location are set. If he wants to hide behind a piece of paper, thats his choice.

You're not supplying the devil's beautiful argument, you're more like his *****ing mother in law.

[SifuAbel]

Then getting shot with a rubber band was enough to make JFS verbally tap out. :D

Oh really, why don't you ask your validator how his face is feeling after the smash in the car. He'll probably lie and said it was nothing. He didn't get out of the car then either, did he.

[SifuAbel]

Was the guy who awarded him that title the one who honed his formidable ducking skills? :D

Too bad you'd never be man enough to say it to his face.

[1bad65]

If he wants to hide behind a piece of paper, thats his choice.


Actually the waiver is moot. Come up with a new excuse quickly!



I told your ass I don't need a waiver, or a f*cking ring. You wouldn't "Man Up" to it.

[1bad65]

Too bad I'll never be man enough to say anything to 1bad65's or Anthony's face.


Fixed that for ya.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

hen that you will fax it to RD and he will post it here and at Bullshido,

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Ummm, RUDY never agreed to that. It was my idea, I suggested it to him, but he never agreed to it, and he never told anyone we are doing this.

I made the suggestion to him, and I mentioned it on the board. Rudy had nothing to do with it.

You are a lying little coward.

[1bad65]

hen that you will fax it to RD and he will post it here and at Bullshido,


Ummm, RUDY never agreed to that. It was my idea, I suggested it to him, but he never agreed to it, and he never told anyone we are doing this.

I made the suggestion to him, and I mentioned it on the board. Rudy had nothing to do with it.


I could give a **** about the semantics. The bottom line is I said the waiver would not be posted here or at Bullshido and it would not be faxed to Anthony.

And I was 100% correct.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Tell him to get off his fat ass, and go get it. If he's going to hide behind that technicality, he's a *****.

[Lucas]

as an impartial viewer, i had the impression Rudy was quite the puss....but now as i read everything that has revolved...it seems as though hes trying to get this action on but now that you guys know hes serious, and calling your bluff, you are the ones trying to back out.

go sign the waver.

from a non participants point of view, you guys look quite the losers. Rudy is coming out on top of this one fast.

now thats coming from an impartial viewer who actually thought Rudy would duck.

i could care less, but if your ego's care at all, now you know you guys look the worse for wear to everyone not intimately involved.

[Anthony_ATT]

Sorry kids, I went out with friends to go bowling.

Has the waiver been faxed yet?

If it hasn't I have no problem with you just posting it right here on this board.

Bullshido did that for Rudy when we sent him a waiver. But then that would mean that he could have sent it in email.

I find this hilarious that any of you have to hang on is me picking up a waiver, or I'm ducking.

While Rudy changes the venue, changes the date 3 times, and can't keep his story straight about whether he can fax, email, or post a waiver.

You all love that kool aid.

Rudy feverently hopes he can keep changing **** so I back out. Not happening.

Waiting on the fax.

[Anthony_ATT]

No Problem bro, I'm done with those arse holes. To think I could fly to JFK from RIC then to FLL to deliver a wavier he couldn't drive to pick up:rolleyes:



jeff:)

Hi Jeff.

In the event that Rudy again fails to deliver on his word and not get me this fax tonight, I'd be more than happy for you to deliver the waiver.

How's Saturday sound? I'll be at American Top Team between 11:00am to 1:00pm. It's in Coconut Creek, Floirda. http://americantopteam.com

Feel free to email me and get this done anthony at bullshido dot com.

[1bad65]

from a non participants point of view, you guys look quite the losers. Rudy is coming out on top of this one fast.

Yeah right.


While Rudy changes the venue, changes the date 3 times IN ONE HOUR, and can't keep his story straight about whether he can fax, email, or post a waiver, or decide who is drafting it, his 'schools lawyer' or his 'promoter' buddy.

Anyone who says The Duck is not frantically fishing for ANYTHING that Anthony will say no to is a fool. It's beyond obvious.

Lucas, maybe you can answer this as The Duck, and RD have avoided it:

What stipulations has Anthony asked to change?

[Fox]

The video NEEDED to be posted, at the time I was told there was "another" video in BS possesion, that may have turned out to be untrue, nevertheless, it had to be done in case it was true.
The video caused many problems yes, problem that would have arisen anways, eventually.
I have been critiqued because of my "overly harsh" critique of John's behavior ( notice I said behavior and not performance), so be it, I stand by it for many reasons, reasons I made clear before.
Was John owned and beaten by Osiris? No, he beat himself by allowing himself to get in a lose-lose situation.
He should have know better, especially since many people had made it clear that it was a lose-lose situation for all of them.

If that makes me a backstabber, even though I was his biggest supporter and defender on more than one site, so be it.

As for Rudy, I have no doubt in Rudy's fight ability, I have been around enough to know skill when I see it from his clips, if he feels that I backstabbed him to, in what regards I have no idea, fine then.
I understand and comend you as I have seen you on other forums, going against the grain so to speak. I also agree with you on most points. The video was in hindsight not a good idea. The problem with BS you never know when they ar lieing to you, since you associate with people they dislike. I am also glad you put 1bad in his place, as he believes everything they tell him. I doubt that will ever change, he needs to learn lifes lessons the hard way.

[Fox]

Liar. There is no such insider info. JFS knew I'd be there. I told him that. Aside from that, there was no plan.
You are one piece of work..you are full of ****. You do not know who Ronin talks to.
You are still a loser in my book, reguardless of who you can ban at will.